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Old May 1, 2006 | 04:39 AM
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And the water holes just dont line up with the headgasket. Should I just drill them out?


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Old May 1, 2006 | 05:25 PM
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If there's enough holes in the general area, I would'nt worry about it.
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Old May 1, 2006 | 09:53 PM
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just watch ur temp gague.. if it over heats then u know what ur problem is good luck
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Old May 2, 2006 | 05:42 AM
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^^^^^ Is it just me or does that sound like a horrable way to find out if the block gaurd won't work
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Old May 2, 2006 | 10:55 AM
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^^I agree, at lesat post up some pics and maybe youll get a better repsonse
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Old May 2, 2006 | 11:19 AM
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are you sure its not flipped the wrong way perhaps?
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Old May 2, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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knock the block guard a little further down from the top of the cylinders..this way theres a space in between where the coolant can flow.
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Old May 3, 2006 | 09:52 AM
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Throw the block guard into the trash, problem solved.
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Old May 3, 2006 | 11:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nfn15037 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Throw the block guard into the trash, problem solved.</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol, maybe its upside down? what brand is it? it should be far enough down the channel where coolant can flow about it, it should not be flush with the deck
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Old May 4, 2006 | 11:27 AM
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Its not upside down, lol, just the coolant passage holes are supper small and don't really line up perfectly. I was worrid about proper coolant flow. Its not flush with the deck but I was just looking at it wondering. Maybe I will knock it down a little further to be safe
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Old May 4, 2006 | 11:34 AM
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small like those holes? dont worry, mine never had any issues (until i dropped a valve but thats another story )
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Old May 4, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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and thats about where my guard is now, I just noticed that the coolant holes are mad small and sit on the edges of the holes in the headgasket. Im just gonna drop it own like a .25" from where it is.
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Old May 23, 2006 | 11:10 PM
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so how did it do? Just curious cause' i'm about to get one for my wifes engine...
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Old May 28, 2006 | 10:10 AM
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Not sure, My engine is still on the stand. But the way I look at it, if you knock the block guard down far enough, (approc 1/2 inch) it will leave room for coolant to flow. We will soon see.... motor should be going in in a week or 2
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Old May 28, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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blockgaurds are about as useful as a wing.

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Old May 28, 2006 | 12:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nfn15037 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Throw the block guard into the trash, problem solved.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Agreed, i still havent seen any proof that they work.
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Old May 28, 2006 | 01:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gLok &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Agreed, i still havent seen any proof that they work.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Haven't seen any sleeves cracked with a block guard yet also.

The block guard should sit about a 1/8 - 1/4 inch below the deck for proper coolant travel and whatnot.
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Old May 28, 2006 | 05:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shortyz21 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">blockgaurds are about as useful as a wing.

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A wing is actually useful if you really think about it. Being serious with downforce etc? Yes, its useful

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Old May 28, 2006 | 06:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by snowseeker &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Haven't seen any sleeves cracked with a block guard yet also.

The block guard should sit about a 1/8 - 1/4 inch below the deck for proper coolant travel and whatnot.</TD></TR></TABLE>

And that means blockguards are a good idea? The reason people might not crack sleeves with block guards is because they are constantly blowing HG's before that....

In actuality, block guards are awful ideas. Metal expands. Throwing a different piece of metal in the mix to prevent metal from expanding and meanwhile limiting the ability for the sleeves to cool thus causing them to expand more is just a rediculous idea. Block guards have no purpose in this world.
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Old May 29, 2006 | 05:01 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by snowseeker &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Haven't seen any sleeves cracked with a block guard yet also.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have, our b16. Needless to say we do not use a blockguard any longer.


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Old May 29, 2006 | 05:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shortyz21 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my post is about as useful as a wing.

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Fixed it for you

Blockguards work extremely well. Of course sleeves can still crack while using a blockguard, but they don't crack until much higher pressures.


You should be just fine running the blockguard how it is as long as your boring/honing was done AFTER you installed the blockguard.
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Old May 29, 2006 | 06:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nowtype &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

And that means blockguards are a good idea? The reason people might not crack sleeves with block guards is because they are constantly blowing HG's before that....

In actuality, block guards are awful ideas. Metal expands. Throwing a different piece of metal in the mix to prevent metal from expanding and meanwhile limiting the ability for the sleeves to cool thus causing them to expand more is just a rediculous idea. Block guards have no purpose in this world.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Hmm, Well my last two motors had block guards and my curent motor has one as well and I have never had a problem yet with cylinder egging or cracking.
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Old May 29, 2006 | 06:40 AM
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Oh yah, who and why are people blowing head gaskets? Sounds like any people that are having problems with block guards is because of installation error. A block guard is not just a drop in part, it needs some lovin before it will go in right.
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Old May 29, 2006 | 07:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by snowseeker &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Oh yah, who and why are people blowing head gaskets? Sounds like any people that are having problems with block guards is because of installation error. A block guard is not just a drop in part, it needs some lovin before it will go in right.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly...I know a ton of cars around here running blockguards making over 400 whp with absolutely no problems. My motor has been just fine for well over a year with zero blown head gaskets.
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Old May 29, 2006 | 07:51 AM
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i purchased a block guard as well but haven't installed it yet as i'm waiting until i have other parts to install as well... i think it will suit my goals and my needs with my build.

i was planning on welding it in place (just in a couple spots), is this a good idea or should i not bother?
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