Who says the dc header does not make power..?
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Who says the dc header does not make power..?
Ok happy now...you all are jerks... No wonder no one posts **** on here...
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well if you really wanted to see the effects of the dc, you should have just changed that. then maybe you could have a better case, a test pipe frees alot of the restriction, and i'm sure the dc helped a little but you can't contribute all the 10 whp to just the dc header.
from the thread title, seems you were out to prove a point, and you semi-did until we find out you just didn't change the header but also a test pipe. what if you got a megan header and got the same results? would 100 bux be a better bang for the buck?
glad you are hitting good numbers though, and you can't compare a h22 swapped civic to a prelude.... two different animals.
from the thread title, seems you were out to prove a point, and you semi-did until we find out you just didn't change the header but also a test pipe. what if you got a megan header and got the same results? would 100 bux be a better bang for the buck?
glad you are hitting good numbers though, and you can't compare a h22 swapped civic to a prelude.... two different animals.
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Re: (Goinfasterthanu)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Goinfasterthanu »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">see this is the kind of comment that got the last dyno taken down...Just to let you know i got the header due to the swap i have in a civic.. I had to have one so i could get it on the dyno. When was the last time you ran a low 13 all motor? Cheap parts if you only knew....</TD></TR></TABLE>
i would love to dig you up a timeslip if you want to talk **** *******, my car has nothing to do with yours
btw my h22 is in a prelude not a civic, low 13s in an h22 civic is not impressive, nor is a dc header
try a real header like an rmf, then your car will be fast enough to brag about....
edit: oh and grow up, youre 30 years old, driving a hatchback civic and talking **** to an 18 year old with a prelude....
i would love to dig you up a timeslip if you want to talk **** *******, my car has nothing to do with yours
btw my h22 is in a prelude not a civic, low 13s in an h22 civic is not impressive, nor is a dc header
try a real header like an rmf, then your car will be fast enough to brag about....
edit: oh and grow up, youre 30 years old, driving a hatchback civic and talking **** to an 18 year old with a prelude....
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Re: Who says the dc header does not make power..? (Goinfasterthanu)
Everyone stop insulting people. Mgags, if you are such a proponent of $1000 custom headers then subsidize the guy so that he too can pose with everyone else that has nothing else done to their engine. If someone spends $100 on a used DC and makes 190-200hp and later on shells out for the $1000 RMF or SMS header and makes another 10hp I would be pissed that I spent $10/hp gain when the first 190 cost me $100. He could get cams for cheaper and get the same gains despite "shitty" DC.
At least respect the fact that he has a H22 and bothered to tune it and share the dynograph here. This thread is 100x more interesting than "Woo look at my Altezzas" and "help me fix my broken car" threads that seem to be predominant here in the Prelude forum of late.
DC is fine for stock engines, if you want anything much more than 200hp then get something else. I agree those are good numbers. Phatdoughnut on AccordinglyDone made 190 to the wheels on his JDM H22 with a DC header untuned. That is pretty damn good, if it works don't knock it.
Goinfasterthanu, you should list this Dyno along with strip times and whatnot in the Official Dynos thread in the sticky. Thank you for sharing.
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At least respect the fact that he has a H22 and bothered to tune it and share the dynograph here. This thread is 100x more interesting than "Woo look at my Altezzas" and "help me fix my broken car" threads that seem to be predominant here in the Prelude forum of late.
DC is fine for stock engines, if you want anything much more than 200hp then get something else. I agree those are good numbers. Phatdoughnut on AccordinglyDone made 190 to the wheels on his JDM H22 with a DC header untuned. That is pretty damn good, if it works don't knock it.
Goinfasterthanu, you should list this Dyno along with strip times and whatnot in the Official Dynos thread in the sticky. Thank you for sharing.
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the fact is pirate, he has other stuff done to his engine, search his name
his last "prove us all wrong" thread went the same way, "i bought something you guys know sucks, and made a few hp from it, so now im going to argue with you that it doesnt suck"
with the money spent on a skunk2 intake manifold and the gaskets for it, plus the money spent on the dc header, a $800 rmf (not $1000) is within scope
its not like im bashing this thing just to bash it, im a huge proponent of nice headers for a few obvious reasons, but getting on here and trying to "prove" to us that dc headers make power is garbage....
goinfasterthanu is obviously at the maturity level of a middle school kid, instead of discussing his thoughts on what i said, he throws out some personal attack, then this
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Goinfasterthanu »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Cheap parts if you only knew....</TD></TR></TABLE>
if i only knew? if i only knew what? that dc headers and skunk2 intake manifolds suck *****....i do know that
i know something else too, while a DC is "fine" for stock engines, it really doesnt make "****" for power on them, so the thread's title is the problem here....its something about the "look im gonna prove you idiots wrong" cocky *** attitude that pisses me off.....and i can almost see the OP in real life......subz and tinted windows, rap or techno blaring, seat "leaned back", hops outta the car with his timz and shadez and spits some ebonics crap about his h22 hatch Goinfasterthanme
wow, congrats
his last "prove us all wrong" thread went the same way, "i bought something you guys know sucks, and made a few hp from it, so now im going to argue with you that it doesnt suck"
with the money spent on a skunk2 intake manifold and the gaskets for it, plus the money spent on the dc header, a $800 rmf (not $1000) is within scope
its not like im bashing this thing just to bash it, im a huge proponent of nice headers for a few obvious reasons, but getting on here and trying to "prove" to us that dc headers make power is garbage....
goinfasterthanu is obviously at the maturity level of a middle school kid, instead of discussing his thoughts on what i said, he throws out some personal attack, then this
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Goinfasterthanu »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Cheap parts if you only knew....</TD></TR></TABLE>
if i only knew? if i only knew what? that dc headers and skunk2 intake manifolds suck *****....i do know that
i know something else too, while a DC is "fine" for stock engines, it really doesnt make "****" for power on them, so the thread's title is the problem here....its something about the "look im gonna prove you idiots wrong" cocky *** attitude that pisses me off.....and i can almost see the OP in real life......subz and tinted windows, rap or techno blaring, seat "leaned back", hops outta the car with his timz and shadez and spits some ebonics crap about his h22 hatch Goinfasterthanme
wow, congrats
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Re: (Goinfasterthanu)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Goinfasterthanu »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> When was the last time you ran a low 13 all motor? Cheap parts if you only knew....</TD></TR></TABLE>
when was the last time you saw someone to 11.5 in an all motor car with a DC sports header???
Ill agree those are good numbers. But you can make so much more power with a better header. And yes that test pipe would have opened up your flow a lot. so take that off put a cat back on drive ur civic back to the dyno and run it again and lets see how that dc headers works with the skunk 2 intake mani. then take the intake mani off and put your stocker back on and do it again...they youll see some really sweet numbers out of that dc header
when was the last time you saw someone to 11.5 in an all motor car with a DC sports header???
Ill agree those are good numbers. But you can make so much more power with a better header. And yes that test pipe would have opened up your flow a lot. so take that off put a cat back on drive ur civic back to the dyno and run it again and lets see how that dc headers works with the skunk 2 intake mani. then take the intake mani off and put your stocker back on and do it again...they youll see some really sweet numbers out of that dc header
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mgags7 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">goinfasterthanu is obviously at the maturity level of a middle school kid, instead of discussing his thoughts on what i said, he throws out some personal attack</TD></TR></TABLE>
So, stooping to his level and insulting him back and cussing really puts you at a superior level then?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a $800 rmf (not $1000) is within scope...</TD></TR></TABLE>
$800 gets a piece of hardware to your front door. There is more to be done to actually fit it to a car. I have yet to see a RMF or SMS header that just bolts up to an existing exhaust. So the extra $200 is not out of the realm of reason especially if he is like most people and he pays someone to do the work.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its something about the "look im gonna prove you idiots wrong" cocky *** attitude that pisses me off</TD></TR></TABLE>
Do you feel threatened by this guy? This is, after all, a webforum. What's the point of getting all pissed off? If he has other modifications and he neglected to list them then it is a good thing to point out those omissions, otherwise If he is out to prove something, let him. I have been a cocky *** about my half-assed little nonVTEC hybrid. I don't remember being put down like this. Leave it be, it's just not worth the effort. That's enough from me now.
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So, stooping to his level and insulting him back and cussing really puts you at a superior level then?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a $800 rmf (not $1000) is within scope...</TD></TR></TABLE>
$800 gets a piece of hardware to your front door. There is more to be done to actually fit it to a car. I have yet to see a RMF or SMS header that just bolts up to an existing exhaust. So the extra $200 is not out of the realm of reason especially if he is like most people and he pays someone to do the work.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its something about the "look im gonna prove you idiots wrong" cocky *** attitude that pisses me off</TD></TR></TABLE>
Do you feel threatened by this guy? This is, after all, a webforum. What's the point of getting all pissed off? If he has other modifications and he neglected to list them then it is a good thing to point out those omissions, otherwise If he is out to prove something, let him. I have been a cocky *** about my half-assed little nonVTEC hybrid. I don't remember being put down like this. Leave it be, it's just not worth the effort. That's enough from me now.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ilikehonda »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Ill agree those are good numbers. But you can make so much more power with a better header. And yes that test pipe would have opened up your flow a lot. so take that off put a cat back on drive ur civic back to the dyno and run it again and lets see how that dc headers works with the skunk 2 intake mani. then take the intake mani off and put your stocker back on and do it again...they youll see some really sweet numbers out of that dc header </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats a lot of dyno run money
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mgags7 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
if i only knew? if i only knew what? that dc headers and skunk2 intake manifolds suck *****....i do know that
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Correction. They suck Monster *****. Big huge, hairy ones.
And I say that from experience.
But seriously, that test pipe most likely did him wonders. I'm assuming he didn't do the collector mod on the DC header.
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Ill agree those are good numbers. But you can make so much more power with a better header. And yes that test pipe would have opened up your flow a lot. so take that off put a cat back on drive ur civic back to the dyno and run it again and lets see how that dc headers works with the skunk 2 intake mani. then take the intake mani off and put your stocker back on and do it again...they youll see some really sweet numbers out of that dc header
</TD></TR></TABLE>Thats a lot of dyno run money
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mgags7 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
if i only knew? if i only knew what? that dc headers and skunk2 intake manifolds suck *****....i do know that
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Correction. They suck Monster *****. Big huge, hairy ones.
And I say that from experience.
But seriously, that test pipe most likely did him wonders. I'm assuming he didn't do the collector mod on the DC header.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Goinfasterthanu »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok and this dyno to will be taken down... Everytime i post a dyno some jerkoff has to spoutoff...mgags..You need to get a life..I was just showing my results. If you dont like them DONT ******* POST ABOUT IT!! I think your just mad cause you spent 1k on a header and didnt get a lot more.. I give up on hondatech...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Are you serious?
Are you serious?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Goinfasterthanu »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Um with the mani i DID ..I ONLY changed the mani . I think some of you are just pissed cause made good power from it! Theres no way i got 5whp from taking my cat off...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats why he called u stupid the first time.
Oh, put the cat back on, and run it on the dyno again.
Thats why he called u stupid the first time.
Oh, put the cat back on, and run it on the dyno again.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Goinfasterthanu »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your the only one i see here....Just shut the expletive up! Go bug someone else.. And most of all GROW UP... The dc does make power..not a lot but it does..Deal with it!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hey man, calm down. No need to stress yourself out.
Hey man, calm down. No need to stress yourself out.
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wow this got outta hand quickly, i see he deleted all his threads which is why you quoted him so we could at least see the replies
goinfasterthanu i think you should read my first post
while you did post good numbers, its just kind of mis-leading when your thread title reads like that, i'm sure you didn't think anything of it when you wrote it but i guess it made a big deal.
the truth is, i know you probably made some better numbers with a dc header, but you made power with a DC header AND test pipe. it would just be nice to see numbers with just the DC header and nothing else done. i'm not a person either who would shell out $1000 bux for a header (had a megan on the h23 but now have a greddy for the h22)
moral of the story: if you are out to prove something, make sure you cover your bases.
goinfasterthanu i think you should read my first post
while you did post good numbers, its just kind of mis-leading when your thread title reads like that, i'm sure you didn't think anything of it when you wrote it but i guess it made a big deal.
the truth is, i know you probably made some better numbers with a dc header, but you made power with a DC header AND test pipe. it would just be nice to see numbers with just the DC header and nothing else done. i'm not a person either who would shell out $1000 bux for a header (had a megan on the h23 but now have a greddy for the h22)
moral of the story: if you are out to prove something, make sure you cover your bases.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AndyD »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well said, Pirate. I wish more people offered the same advice.
As I have said before, mgags7 posts shyt. His advice sux. </TD></TR></TABLE>
wouldnt go that far
As I have said before, mgags7 posts shyt. His advice sux.
</TD></TR></TABLE>wouldnt go that far
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AndyD »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As I have said before, mgags7 posts shyt. His advice sux. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yah he always does come of *** being overly hot headed to say the least.
And who cares if this guy made some decent power with a DC sports header? Some you effing people are so stupid it pisses me off. I'm sorry if us normies can't afford a fukken 1000 dollar header like the rest of you Donald Trumps. Seriously that **** get old, buy me one or stfu if I post a dyno of a DC header that makes decent power. Now because of you idiots sticking your nose starting drama THAT SHOULDN'T EVEN CONCERN YOU I won't be able to see this dyno. Goinfasterthanu if you don't mind, could you post the dyno as well as what's done? Unlike these billionaire's I myself am looking for a cheaper header and was wondering what you made. I had heard DC increased their collector piping to 2 1/2 inches.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Yah he always does come of *** being overly hot headed to say the least.
And who cares if this guy made some decent power with a DC sports header? Some you effing people are so stupid it pisses me off. I'm sorry if us normies can't afford a fukken 1000 dollar header like the rest of you Donald Trumps. Seriously that **** get old, buy me one or stfu if I post a dyno of a DC header that makes decent power. Now because of you idiots sticking your nose starting drama THAT SHOULDN'T EVEN CONCERN YOU I won't be able to see this dyno. Goinfasterthanu if you don't mind, could you post the dyno as well as what's done? Unlike these billionaire's I myself am looking for a cheaper header and was wondering what you made. I had heard DC increased their collector piping to 2 1/2 inches.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94Vtecluder »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
And who cares if this guy made some decent power with a DC sports header? </TD></TR></TABLE>
correction. DC sports header AND test pipe
And who cares if this guy made some decent power with a DC sports header? </TD></TR></TABLE>
correction. DC sports header AND test pipe
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94Vtecluder »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yah he always does come of *** being overly hot headed to say the least.
And who cares if this guy made some decent power with a DC sports header? Some you effing people are so stupid it pisses me off. I'm sorry if us normies can't afford a fukken 1000 dollar header like the rest of you Donald Trumps. Seriously that **** get old, buy me one or stfu if I post a dyno of a DC header that makes decent power. Now because of you idiots sticking your nose starting drama THAT SHOULDN'T EVEN CONCERN YOU I won't be able to see this dyno. Goinfasterthanu if you don't mind, could you post the dyno as well as what's done? Unlike these billionaire's I myself am looking for a cheaper header and was wondering what you made. I had heard DC increased their collector piping to 2 1/2 inches.</TD></TR></TABLE>
for the 4th gen, yes the new collector is 2.5". It would have been a better dyno comparison if he would have added JUST the header. What alot of us are saying is that the TEST PIPE did most of the work.
with that said....why spend your precious money on something that is supposed to add performance but only ends up looking good in the engine bay?
And who cares if this guy made some decent power with a DC sports header? Some you effing people are so stupid it pisses me off. I'm sorry if us normies can't afford a fukken 1000 dollar header like the rest of you Donald Trumps. Seriously that **** get old, buy me one or stfu if I post a dyno of a DC header that makes decent power. Now because of you idiots sticking your nose starting drama THAT SHOULDN'T EVEN CONCERN YOU I won't be able to see this dyno. Goinfasterthanu if you don't mind, could you post the dyno as well as what's done? Unlike these billionaire's I myself am looking for a cheaper header and was wondering what you made. I had heard DC increased their collector piping to 2 1/2 inches.</TD></TR></TABLE>
for the 4th gen, yes the new collector is 2.5". It would have been a better dyno comparison if he would have added JUST the header. What alot of us are saying is that the TEST PIPE did most of the work.
with that said....why spend your precious money on something that is supposed to add performance but only ends up looking good in the engine bay?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AndyD »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well said, Pirate. I wish more people offered the same advice.
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ok big boy....you're just full of good stuff
hot headed indeed boys, its the italian blood
there is not one person on here that will make me ever dispute anything i have said here, those headers are a WASTE OF MONEY, along with the crap *** sk2 manifold, and the money could be better spent elsewhere. thats a period
As I have said before, mgags7 posts shyt. His advice sux.
</TD></TR></TABLE>ok big boy....you're just full of good stuff
hot headed indeed boys, its the italian blood
there is not one person on here that will make me ever dispute anything i have said here, those headers are a WASTE OF MONEY, along with the crap *** sk2 manifold, and the money could be better spent elsewhere. thats a period
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