someone was telling me the a b16 transmission out of a civic si was better than the b18c1 transmission. is this true? i have a Gsr right now and wanted to ask the community if this was right? i was thinking of going all motor with my car. BTW the b16 tranny he wants to sell me has LSD wich mine dosnt right now


Thanks, Corey

 

yes its true...the gears are shorter...

 

um..id stay with the gsr tranny, the b16 tranny has such short gears..when i rode in my buddys SI we were at 5100rpms at 75mph

 

if youre looking at gas mileage and rpm placement during cruise so highly....stop modifying your car now... ive yet to see the person who boosted his car "for gas mileage"

 

So you guys think i should go for it? BTW hes selling me the entire b16b motor as well for only 500$$$ nothing wrong with it, comes with everyhting for a swap too! so maybe ill just resell the motor or put the head on my Gsr and have a poor mans ITR )

 

you do get about the same gas milage or better when going turbo and do a 5th gear swap from the gsr into the b16 tranny and have that gear the same. im doing that im keeping my ls 5th gear. do that!

 

all motor = b16
boosting = b18

just my .02. take it or leave it.

 

I'd say take it. It has an LSD you're buying a 96 Spec/US Type R tranny. Same ratios and final drive it's just out of a civic.

 

You really have to drive it to see which transmission is more suited for your driving style.

 

FYI I know that it's only the first three gear wich are different in a b16a vs GSR. If my memory's good, the 4th and fifth gear remains the same. Plus you do have an LSD. Also, I beleive the three first gear of the b16a are the same as the b18c5... I use to read that in a magasine... There were a full article on all honda tranny... The final might be different.

Hope it help but if it was me... i'm a track addict so there is no thinking... I would go for it for sure...

The only downside is that at that cost (500$), your stuff is probably stolen and that sucks!

I hate so much these ******! Try to stole mine 3 times last summer!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by maxogsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">FYI I know that it's only the first three gear wich are different in a b16a vs GSR. If my memory's good, the 4th and fifth gear remains the same. Plus you do have an LSD. Also, I beleive the three first gear of the b16a are the same as the b18c5... I use to read that in a magasine... There were a full article on all honda tranny... The final might be different.

Hope it help but if it was me... i'm a track addict so there is no thinking... I would go for it for sure...

The only downside is that at that cost (500$), your stuff is probably stolen and that sucks!

I hate so much these ******! Try to stole mine 3 times last summer!</TD></TR></TABLE>

4th and 5th of the b16 are not the same as the GSR...those gears are shorter as well..

 

I have a B16 tranny in my teg and I liove it. Yeah the cruising gearing isnt the greatest but at least you can keep yourself in check and avoid getting speeding tix. It revs faster and if you add LSD Im sure you wont miss your GSR tranny.

 

Yeah, I've run both. I prefer the SI tranny on track days but, it's no fun on the highway.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dcRay &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You really have to drive it to see which transmission is more suited for your driving style. </TD></TR></TABLE>

hes right

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by maxogsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

The only downside is that at that cost (500$), your stuff is probably stolen and that sucks!

I hate so much these ******! Try to stole mine 3 times last summer!</TD></TR></TABLE>

The motor and tranny is coming out of his DA which he just totaled and he had payed 3000 for the motor and install, so i think im just gonna take the tranny and sell of the motor.

 

I have a b18c1 with a GSR tranny n having a problem it revs at 4000 rpms wat u think is the problem I bought a new ECU but had to order the harness for it but after driving it around for an hour it stops doin it n wen I shut the car off n turn it back on it does it again in every gear

 

Fuel economy is a factor even in racecars. Professional racing teams put a lot of effort into optimizing fuel economy, including by means of gearing. At the hobbyist level, there's no sense making the car's fuel economy worse for no reason, and furthermore, I could see just the high cruising RPM being bothersome if he actually has to drive this car much.

Could one maybe swap the 5th gear set from the GS-R transaxle into the Civic one, so you have a shorter 1-4 and a stock 5th?

Edit: Oh snap, that post was 2006. I assume he's figured this out by now.

As for Salvatierra's question, are we to understand that the engine idles at 4000 rpm for the first hour or so, or that it won't rev past 4000 rpm?

 

The B16 4th gear is good to 114 mph. You need more than 300 horsepower to go that fast in the 1/4 mile. If you are racing at those speeds, then get the B16, but realize your gearing/rpm will limit your top speed. Otherwise get something with a reasonable top gear or... (my favorite) swap in the LS 5th gear.