ok i just purchased some rims and tires off of ebay (o.z. superlegra's 16x7 with some sumito tires, not reall sure what kind of sumito's, any ways they make my car like super glued to the road. but the body roll is like an airplane turning sharp. im looking for my body roll to be cut in half and like 1" to 1.5" drop on my car. should i be looking for adjustable coil over kit, lowering, lowering springs,or sport shocks??? i really dont want to spend more than like $500 if possible less but I have tried to research on this site couldnt find much. sry for the noob question

 

ill hack at it. um from wat i have seen and learnd from. spings dont bounce more then the coils. you would want to buy some shock with it cause jsut buying springs will not magiclly fix your suspesion so get some shocks with it to. to eliminate your body roll. you should get some anti sway bars and strut bars. from this you will improve your handling. my .02

 

so im pretty much going to have to go with a whole new suspension system all together?? and im not looking to like do track race. just for like everyday driving and sometimes a little bit harder cornering. but right now, my whole suspension is stock im not really worried about my car sliding i just dont really like the body roll. i want it to like cut instead of roll

 

well springs, shocks, and strut bars are good for daily and for some cornering. anti sway bars would reduce body roll also. but those first three are recommended.

 

If you want less body roll without increasing road harshness, then a set of sway-bars is going to make you very happy.

Lowering springs do add road harshness, but that's not always a bad thing. Coil-over sleeves are more expensive, but add height adjustment too (Ground-Control makes the best). They tend to be considerably stiffer than lowering springs because they are made to lower the car up to 3"+...

Shocks are made to control the springs motion. If the new springs are too stiff for your existing shocks, you will know because the car will bounce several times after hitting a bump.

All three of these items can severely alter how your vehicle handles at the limits, so take caution to only choose quality tested brand names. Sometimes the biggest bar, or stiffest springs aren't always the best for you.

I'm gonna recommend you buy a set of lowering springs (Eibach, H&R or Neuspeed for top quality), and follow that up with some OEM sway-bars. Lowering springs shouldn't be too stiff for your OEM shocks, and their relatively inexpensive. OEM sway-bars won't change the handling characteristics of your car too much, but will greatly help to reduce body roll.

You never mentioned what car you have, so I can't tell you what sway-bars will fit on your car...

 

thx for all the info i think im going to go with the lowering springs along with the sway bar like u said. im sry that i did not tell u my car i have. its in my signature. sorry about that. i dont really care about road harshness that much as long as its smooth riding on smooth surfaces, and my tires dont wear out. thanks for all the help any more info would be great though

 

Do I hear Comptech or ASR tie/sway brace coming...? YES. When you upgrade by adding a swaybar, you will need reinforcement. Comptech and ASR both have kits that will help. Comptech is blinging and you pay for it while the ASR is, well, a plate? Anyway, both will help reduce the chances of a subframe tear-out and you will definitely feel the bar working. Don't go wasting your money on strut bars, x-bars, y-bars, z-bars.

ITR sway with comptech tie upgrade kit. Waste of Money when I could have just bought the full ASR kit which comes with all the necessary supplies.

If I could do it all over again, I'll probably get the ASR and save some dough.
Comptech have an adjustable bar which is quite nice.

 

Those reinforcment bars are necissary when you start thinking about using the larger sway bars. Honda uses a 13mm bar on the back end of the 99-00 Si civics without any special reinforcment. With the EK's weak subframe I wouldn't suggest going any larger than 13mm since it can tear. If you do want to go larger, just purchase the whole ASR sway-bar kit. It contains special parts to make the Integra Type-R 22mm sway-bar work on the EK. It comes with everything...

If you want a front sway-bar, you can use the parts from either the Si or the Integra. For the Si 25mm sway-bar you will need the Si's matching LCAs, larger damper forks, and special end-links. For the integra's 22mm or 24mm bar you will only need the LCAs and end-links that match the bar (22 & 244mm bars have different end-links). No matter what bar you choose (22,24,25mm) you will need the Si's mounting hardware to attach the bar to the chassis.

 

i had the neuspeed sport springs w/ tokico blues on my 98 coupe. i loved them. the ride will be real nice if your tires on your OZ's are atleast 45 series..smaller the tire..harsher the ride. that setup is still on the car and has lasted probably 4-5yrs. car is now in my sisters hands and needs to be replaced w/ new suspension but i'd defintely consider neuspeed/tokico.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sirg-vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do I hear Comptech or ASR tie/sway brace coming...? YES. When you upgrade by adding a swaybar, you will need reinforcement. Comptech and ASR both have kits that will help. Comptech is blinging and you pay for it while the ASR is, well, a plate? Anyway, both will help reduce the chances of a subframe tear-out and you will definitely feel the bar working. Don't go wasting your money on strut bars, x-bars, y-bars, z-bars.</TD></TR></TABLE>
where can you get an ASR kit and about how much would it cost?? and would it work for my 97 civic dx?

 

what would happen if i dont get a sway bar's?? cause im thinkin thats pretty techincal. im just looking for it to be i guess a little bit more sporty and reduced body roll a decent amount. im thinkin lowering springs (1.5 in back and front) with that cumber kit or what ever so my tires dont wear out, and a strut bar how would that be with my stock oem shocks??? the more i think about it the less i can spend cause right now i have holes in my pockets i kind of just hit life. cause im 16 now and i have to pay for my car and some bills and gass and all that good stuff you guys know how it is. so im thinking about leaving the sway bar out just to save some money and make things easier. what kind of name brands would u guys recommend though??? thanks for the help though once again.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by big-cat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what would happen if i dont get a sway bar's?? cause im thinkin thats pretty techincal. im just looking for it to be i guess a little bit more sporty and reduced body roll a decent amount. im thinkin lowering springs (1.5 in back and front) with that cumber kit or what ever so my tires dont wear out, and a strut bar how would that be with my stock oem shocks??? the more i think about it the less i can spend cause right now i have holes in my pockets i kind of just hit life. cause im 16 now and i have to pay for my car and some bills and gass and all that good stuff you guys know how it is. so im thinking about leaving the sway bar out just to save some money and make things easier. what kind of name brands would u guys recommend though??? thanks for the help though once again.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If your not sure, you should probably just start with lowering springs. Sturt tower bars don't do much but look cool. Most of the road-race crowd on H-T can't tell the differnce with or without them, so your pretty much buying something for show. If you do get lowering springs, go with a set from one of the three big names. Eibach, Neuspeed & H&R are the best. Also, camber kits are not necissary at those ride heights. Just make sure to reset your bushings for the new ride height, and get an alignment to fix the toe settings. Your OEM shocks should last a good long time if your a carful driver...

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where can you get an ASR kit and about how much would it cost?? and would it work for my 97 civic dx? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Try A-Spec-Racing.com...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by big-cat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what would happen if i dont get a sway bar's?? cause im thinkin thats pretty techincal. im just looking for it to be i guess a little bit more sporty and reduced body roll a decent amount. im thinkin lowering springs (1.5 in back and front) with that cumber kit or what ever so my tires dont wear out, and a strut bar how would that be with my stock oem shocks??? the more i think about it the less i can spend cause right now i have holes in my pockets i kind of just hit life. cause im 16 now and i have to pay for my car and some bills and gass and all that good stuff you guys know how it is. so im thinking about leaving the sway bar out just to save some money and make things easier. what kind of name brands would u guys recommend though??? thanks for the help though once again.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Installing a rear swaybar isn't hard. In fact, its much much easier than springs.

I love my Comptech rear swaybar. It made a world of difference on an otherwise stock car. Since then, I've also installed Konis and GCs, but the swaybar alone cut body roll on the street by a large amount.

 

well thx for all the help i think im going to get lowering springs and eventually i'll get a sway bar. but untill i learn more about the sway bar and get all my money situations straightened out, i think im going to put it off for now. thanks for all the help once again

 

hey are these springs any good??
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...yment

 

NO! Who knows what your gonna get with those? If you want coil-over sleeves, get Ground Control. They are the best by far. Their "off the shelf" kits are actually road tested on the cars to make sure the rates feel good & perform well. They also carry a lifetime warranty. Definently worth the $299 if you want height adjustable sleeves...

 

I ran with just Eibach pro-kit springs and no sway bars on my 99 DX Coupe for a long time and i liked the ride. In fact right now I have Koni/Ground Control and still have no sway bar hooked up and it feels fine. I have a 22mm ITR rear bar that I'll hook up this weekend for AutoX

 

i know but isnt jdm a highly rated company

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by big-cat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i know but isnt jdm a highly rated company</TD></TR></TABLE> Uhhhhh......no!

 

haha 13 bucks? how cheap can they get. i have pulled off these ebay coilovers from two civic, and they are absolute JUNK. the springs were actaully bent when i pulled them off an si. dont buy those things. ever.lol how is a coilover "jdm style" anyways, what makes it JDM.lol.