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Changing brakes from diagonal split to front\rear split(will this work?)

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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 02:46 PM
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Default Changing brakes from diagonal split to front\rear split(will this work?)

96 integra, using a 40\40 prop valve

Red lines are front brake lines

Blue lines are rear brake lines

Green are lines from MC

Pardon the crude paint job-

normal setup-



Proposed setup-



Question is will the new setup work?
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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im jus wondering why?
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cory Matthews &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im jus wondering why?</TD></TR></TABLE>

To make something else I am doing easier.
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 07:58 PM
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Default Re: Changing brakes from diagonal split to front\rear split(will this work?) (4door_demon)

if you search in the RR/auto X forum you will find a few topics covering this.

i don't under stand what this has to do with suspension thoguh.
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 08:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you search in the RR/auto X forum you will find a few topics covering this.

i don't under stand what this has to do with suspension thoguh.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I did find a few posts, but nothing that would give me a concrete answer.


We dont have a brake specific forum, nor is it really car specific either. I just knew that alot of the brake guys hung out in here.


I have been told it should work.
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 11:50 PM
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haha im curious now. what is it yuor doing?
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 12:18 AM
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youre going to tee-in the rears so you can put in a brake bias adjuster to the rear circuit?
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 12:19 AM
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if you read the topics then you know that some people say YES and others say NO.

there are people who have done it and it worked.

Did you think of PMing them?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chrisw85 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">youre going to tee-in the rears so you can put in a brake bias adjuster to the rear circuit?</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats my guess
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 08:29 AM
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Default Re: Changing brakes from diagonal split to front\rear split(will this work?) (slammed_93_hatch)

Its so I can run a line loc off a single line from the MC.


Yes I have PMed a few people and pointed them to this thread, currently waiting for responses. Its not like I am doing this tomorrow or even next month.
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 09:01 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4door_demon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Question is will the new setup work?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not the way you want it. You can't use the stock prop-valve.
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 09:04 AM
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If you were going through all the trouble of that, I dont see it being much more work (except more money) to plumb in a dual master cylinder setup with a balance bar. Willwood and baer and ap racing make setups for this, though you will have to calculate your system volume and pressure etc...

Either way would still be as 'anti-failsafe' as the other compared to the stock diagonal split system.
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chrisw85 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you were going through all the trouble of that, I dont see it being much more work (except more money) to plumb in a dual master cylinder setup with a balance bar. Willwood and baer and ap racing make setups for this, though you will have to calculate your system volume and pressure etc...

Either way would still be as 'anti-failsafe' as the other compared to the stock diagonal split system.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Too much, I only wanted to do it this way if I could use the stock valve.
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