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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 08:51 AM
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I have a complete B16A2 motor from a 00 Civic Si. And a complete B18A1 (non vtec) motor in my car now. What would be the best mix? Which pistons, which block? Most people say the b18 block and do a ls/vtec setup. But the b16 block is a vtec block. Any input would be great.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 09:14 AM
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use your b18a block with your b16 pistons. Go with the b16 head on it then you have yourself a ls/vtec
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 10:12 AM
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uh...build a proper lsvtec
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 10:27 AM
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My plan is to rev @ 10,000 safely. I know that I need to upgrade my whole valvetrain, probably pistons. I already have a GSR water pump and timing belt. But will a non vtec block that redlines @ 6,800 be able to handle it or should I try to acquire a vtec b18? The B16A1 stock is 160 HP. Would the B18 block be better than that?
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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your not gonna be making any decent power at 10,000 your power will start declining before u get there
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dirtyrican987 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your not gonna be making any decent power at 10,000 your power will start declining before u get there</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 12:44 PM
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10,000rpm? good luck
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 02:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fliptout2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My plan is to rev @ 10,000 safely. I know that I need to upgrade my whole valvetrain, probably pistons. I already have a GSR water pump and timing belt. But will a non vtec block that redlines @ 6,800 be able to handle it or should I try to acquire a vtec b18? The B16A1 stock is 160 HP. Would the B18 block be better than that?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Think of it this way... one of the reasons people use a b18 non-vtec block is because it has higher compression due to the length of the rods. If your not even gonna use the rods then you might as well get a gsr block that has stronger everything, better oil system, a girdle, and is able to actually support high revving...

Just not 10,000 rpms... if you want that i recommend a crotch rocket or a rx7.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 03:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fliptout2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My plan is to rev @ 10,000 safely. I know that I need to upgrade my whole valvetrain, probably pistons. I already have a GSR water pump and timing belt. But will a non vtec block that redlines @ 6,800 be able to handle it or should I try to acquire a vtec b18? The B16A1 stock is 160 HP. Would the B18 block be better than that?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Got money?

You would definitely need the oil squirters in the VTEC block to keep the bottom end together at that RPM. You will also need forged rods, forged pistons, better rod bolts, etc. A block girdle would be a good idea as well.

The top end is a continuing story. Think individual throttle bodies, an outrageous port job, etc.

Most people buid their valve train to rev that high as an insurance policy in the event of an overrev.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 03:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ForceFed_Motorsports &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Think of it this way... one of the reasons people use a b18 non-vtec block is because it has higher compression due to the length of the rods. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually, all B16's, B17's, and B18C1/5 have higher compression than B18a/b's.

You must be thinking of the crank's long stroke that gives alittle more torque.

To the OP, forget about the 10K rpm redline unless you have a large wallet.

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