Ok I need some opinions about suspension...
1- Im running 205/45/16 wheels and Im looking for good and not expensive springs for daily driving, I dont want to install a camber kit

2- Bilstein vs Tokico wich are better shocks/struts?

 

id go with illuminas for the lifetime warranty alone.


i like eibach prokits.


Modified by Tyson at 12:35 PM 4/20/2006

 

You should look into either Neuspeed, H&R or Eibach for lowering springs. They are less expensive than coil-over sleeves, and their quality is top notch. You don't want to completely cheap out on springs because they are an extremely important suspension component.

As for camber kits, you will find that a lot of people feel they are completely unnecessary on Civics & integras. I've been lowered 3" for 6 years now, with no camber kit (94 Civic CX 205/40/16). I have not experienced any excessive wear in that time. Also make sure to reset all you suspension bushings when you lower your car, and then get an alignment...

Before you ask what "resetting bushings" means, I'll explain:
Loosen all bolts on your suspension that go through the center of a bushing. With the suspension fully loaded, re-tighten all bolts (to spec). If you don't do this, your bushing will be twisted all the time, and they will wear out early...

 

The resetting thing is easiest to do by putting your car up on 4 jack stands. Now jack up underneath one of your LCAs until the car just barley lifts off the nearest jackstand. This is when you loosen & retighten all the bolts at that corner. Now you move on to the next corner.

Make sure to follow this up with a 4 wheel alignment...

 

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Yeah Eibach's! They have a lifetime warranty as well, just check this story out....

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1587659

 

I have tokico illuminas, and would probably never buy them again. It's nice to have the adjustable dampening settings, but after a couple months, even on the firmest setting the ride is not really firm anymore. I have a nasty clunking noise coming from one of the rear ones now, but I've been too busy working on other projects to go check it out. Also I had a friend with illuminas, and he thought they wore out way too fast. I think to get the lifetime warranty you have to send in the warranty card which I forgot to do. But still, since they don't seem technically "blown", just really soft, I'm not sure that Tokico would replace them.

However, in tokico's defense, let me say this.
I had a super cheap coilover kit on before that which was just stupid but I didn't feel like spending much money at the time on suspension. That screwed up all the tires/shocks/struts, so I replaced all of them and used tokico shocks/struts/springs. The ride is pretty good for just cruising around town, and at high speeds on the highway (90+) it's decent, not bouncy/floaty or anything like that. and if that's all you're gonna be doing, then you could consider them. However, it doesn't lower the car enough in the front, and it still rubs when I hit any really small dip or depression in the road.

Obviously it's up to you. But I'll probably pass on the tokico's next time.