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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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Yeah, it's pretty straight forward, the search has me a bit bewildered as I can't find much of anything from it so plz don't flame me for that...

Basicaly it's simple, from what I hear the 92-95 Ex had the D16Z6 and the Si had the same, and I know the 96-99 Ex had the D16 in it also, I'm not sure what the Si had though... My question is simple...what's the major difference between the Si and the Ex.... I feel some peole are going to say "the Si is a hatch and the Ex is a coupe" but I'm pretty sure I saw more than one Si before that was a coupe...so I'm kinda confused up to hell, if the Si did come in a coupe, the body style pretty much looks the same...what's the diff?

Sorry if this sounds real dumb to u guys, but if it does, plz just try to refrain from flaming me :-\
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 12:58 PM
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92-95 ex and si had D16z6, 96-99 ex and si had the D16y8. 2000 ex has the D16y8 and the si has a B16a.
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 01:00 PM
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2000 Honda Civic Si=B16A2 160HP..
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 01:03 PM
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^ and about 15-20 more ft/lbs of torque more than a stock d series *twirls finger*

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by schardbody &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">92-95 ex and si had D16z6, 96-99 ex and si had the D16y8. 2000 ex has the D16y8 and the si has a B16a. </TD></TR></TABLE>

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92-95 ex and si (I'm pretty sure the Si was not made all 3 years) had the d16z6
The Si was a hatch in this generation and the ex was a coupe

96-00 ex had the d16y8 this came in a coupe model
99-00 Si had the b16a2 this ONLY came in a coupe model

The mechanical differences between the ex and Si in 99-00 was the engine, stiffer springs, and rear disc brakes on the Si. Other than that they are exactly the same.
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 01:05 PM
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how was i wrong, everything i stated was 100% correct. i didnt specify whether or not each year was avail as hatch or coupe because while looking for one say a 92 coupe si he wont need to worry about this info because he wont find that vehicle. all the info i put was correct.
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 01:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHC4life 96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^ and about 15-20 more ft/lbs of torque more than a stock d series *twirls finger*</TD></TR></TABLE>

Uh, more like like 5-10.
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 01:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHC4life 96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^ and about 15-20 more ft/lbs of torque more than a stock d series *twirls finger*

No

92-95 ex and si (I'm pretty sure the Si was not made all 3 years) had the d16z6
The Si was a hatch in this generation and the ex was a coupe

96-00 ex had the d16y8 this came in a coupe model
99-00 Si had the b16a2 this ONLY came in a coupe model

The mechanical differences between the ex and Si in 99-00 was the engine, stiffer springs, and rear disc brakes on the Si. Other than that they are exactly the same.</TD></TR></TABLE>


^ He's right but they also have an EX Sedan from 96-00 with the d16y8 as well as 92-95 with the d16z6. Most EX Sedans from 92-95 were canadian models with rear disc brakes!
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 01:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by schardbody &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how was i wrong, everything i stated was 100% correct. i didnt specify whether or not each year was avail as hatch or coupe because while looking for one say a 92 coupe si he wont need to worry about this info because he wont find that vehicle. all the info i put was correct.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No it wasn't. You said that 96-99 there was an Si and it had a d16y8. First there was no Si in the 96-98 years and the Si started in 99 with the b16a2. Good try though.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Uh, more like like 5-10.</TD></TR></TABLE>

*twirls middle finger* Even better.
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 01:08 PM
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The Si came with more options too if I am not mistaken
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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1992-1995 civic si (hatchback) d16z6 - 125 hp
1992-1995 civic ex (coupe and sedan) d16z6 - 125 hp
1996-2000 civic ex (coupe and sedan) d16y8 - 127 hp
1999-2000 civic si (coupe) b16a2 - 160 hp

there was no si coupe, and no ex hatchback, in the eg and ej body platforms. simple as that.
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by schardbody &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how was i wrong, everything i stated was 100% correct. i didnt specify whether or not each year was avail as hatch or coupe because while looking for one say a 92 coupe si he wont need to worry about this info because he wont find that vehicle. all the info i put was correct.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you were wrong in the sense that the Si was offered in '99 as well with the b16a2.

The Civic year models are...

&lt;87
88-91
92-95
96-98
99-00
01-03?
04-05?
06&lt;

The differences between 96-00 models were headlights, tail lights and some interior stuff as well as OBD2a and OBD2b

The same goes with 01-05 models. I wasn't exactly sure of the headlight change between these years though.
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 01:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Schrader &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Si came with more options too if I am not mistaken</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't think there were any different options on the 99-00 Si as opposed to the 99-00 ex other than maybe ABS but even still those are rear here in the states.
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 01:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EX-T &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't think there were any different options on the 99-00 Si as opposed to the 99-00 ex other than maybe ABS but even still those are rear here in the states.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I was under the impression that the Si was not available with ABS. Only the EX had it as an option.
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 01:20 PM
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If anything, the Si would have the better chance of getting an ABS option than the EX although I have seen a few 92-95 EX coupes and sedans with ABS.
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 01:26 PM
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i have never seen a ek coupe/sedan or si model with abs. but u have seen the Eg ody with it..
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 01:31 PM
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I thought that the 99-00 Si had the B16a3....
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 01:36 PM
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Modified by CardDealer at 2:32 PM 11/16/2006
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 01:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97ShLude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I thought that the 99-00 Si had the B16a3....</TD></TR></TABLE>

B16A3 was in the pre-96 del sol VTEC.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sohcvtec1995 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have never seen a ek coupe/sedan or si model with abs. but u have seen the Eg ody with it..</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah one came into my shop a while back for an oil change. It was a EX sedan, '94 I think. The EJs (96-00 coupe) was offered with ABS as well as the 99-00 Si, it's just very rare to find one that has ABS.
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 02:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EX-T &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I don't think there were any different options on the 99-00 Si as opposed to the 99-00 ex other than maybe ABS but even still those are rear here in the states.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Si's have the B16, but other than the motor ****..

99-00 Si: no ABS, 4 wheel discs, 18mm rear sway, front lip, si wheels, sunroof, diffrent seats/pattern, leather steering wheel and shift ****, cruise control, and my mind is done for the day

there is a big diffrence between an EX and an Si
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 02:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHC4life 96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No it wasn't. You said that 96-99 there was an Si and it had a d16y8. First there was no Si in the 96-98 years and the Si started in 99 with the b16a2. Good try though.
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Actually, you're wrong too. In canada, there was an Si in 96', and it did have a d16y8. Nothing that he said is technically incorrect.

Good try though.
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 02:25 PM
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well, the 99 si being a B16 is the part i said wrong, it was a typo or brain fart.
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spoon0313 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">99-00 Si: no ABS, 4 wheel discs, 13mm rear sway...</TD></TR></TABLE>

The EJ8 (96-00 ex) has a sunroof as well, and cruise control. Those werent only on the SI. The EJ may have the leather shift **** too, but im not sure because mine is a lame automatic.
THe SI also has the hefty 26mm front sway bar, and different front lca's to accomadate it, versus the EJ 22mm front.
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 04:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spoon0313 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Si's have the B16, but other than the motor ****..

99-00 Si: no ABS, 4 wheel discs, 18mm rear sway, front lip, si wheels, sunroof, diffrent seats/pattern, leather steering wheel and shift ****, cruise control, and my mind is done for the day

there is a big diffrence between an EX and an Si </TD></TR></TABLE>

You're wrong about the seats. I've got EX seats with Si headrests with the same exact pattern on the headrests as I have on my STOCK seats. I had a buddy get me the headrests from a Honda JunkYard in Alabama. I don't think the leather steering wheel and shift **** was an option, pretty sure they were standard. My '99 EX also has a sunroof, factory, and cruise control, factory. Pretty sure that ABS was an option and discs all around, front lip and bigger sway bar were standard as well. :shrugs:
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2000HondaSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">2000 Honda Civic Si=B16A2 160HP.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

the only coupe they made in si, unless you wanna refer to the new stinky 06
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 05:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sh!ttyLS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Actually, you're wrong too. In canada, there was an Si in 96', and it did have a d16y8. Nothing that he said is technically incorrect.

Good try though.</TD></TR></TABLE>

He never mentioned canada. If he had I would have stated that the Si in canada was equivalent to the US Ex and the canada SiR was the same as the US Si. Shut the **** up before you really get put in your place.
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