exactly like i said up there im sorry im a noob , and if they will work would i have to change the head gasket or anything?

 

If you change the rods you will have to change head gasket.

 

no

 

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The only problem with this idea is you are trying to use a B16A block. This would work fine in a B18A/B/C or B16B block.

The problem is the B16A and B17 is like ~7mm shorter than all the rest of the B blocks. That means if you did this your pistons would be sticking through the top of your block by ~7mm.

There was a guy making a kit to swap LS guts into a B16 block with special ~7mm shorter pistons but from what I read, most everyone was having problems with blowby.

Toda or Spoon made a kit to put an ITR crank into a B16A, to make it a 1.8 in a small package. There's no reason you couldn't sleeve your B16A to 84mm and have a 2.0 with the correct crank.

Another option would be an Ls crank with B17 rods (the shortest of the Bs) and some custom pistons. That might get you a normal ring setup.




Modified by JohnnieChimpo at 12:19 AM 4/19/2006

 

soo what would u suggest i do because i burnt out the rings on cylinder # 1 on the b16 and i wanted a little bit more kick to the b16 i want more torque soo i figured while i was down there ya know change some **** around and someone had told me that was possible with the ls crank and rods with gsr pistons give some more options please thanks

 

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I suggest finding a B18a/b block..The b16a rods are shorter then the B18 rods so like chimpo said the pistons are going to be sticking out of the head..in my opinion it would make such more sense to go out and find a b18 block..

 

i was thinking about it lsvtec but now what has to get machined on that block soo that it will work right with vtec? cuz thats definatly an easy and cost effective way

 

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If you get the GE lsvtec kit there is no machining required.. Or maybe try and get a b18c shortblock and do a "poor man's type-r" engine..

 

lets say i get a good ls bottom end the Golden Eagle kit comes with everything i need for a stock head with a stock bottom end put together? it should work fine than? also should i get since i have an obd0 b16 should i get an obd0 ls bottom end? would it make it easier?

 

With b16's requiring some poor shortcuts to stroke it to 1.8L and LS blocks being so cheap - why wouldn't you go with the taller deck? If your reply is 'budget', then you shouldn't be doing this anyways.

 

what do you mean by a taller deck im new to this stuff

 

its also not about the money i want the motor to be reliable too ya know soo let so me know whats the best way thanks

 

damn it just buy a DART block and get it over with (built bottom end)


http://www.dh-racing.com/

 

im not looking for something thats 4gs just for a bottom end i want something thats streetable im really interested in the ls vtec build up if any more money would be greatly appreciated willing to spend like maybe 2 gs work on the motor

 

will stock b16 head work properly with a stock ls bottom end?

 

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The B16a/B17a engines have shorter deckheights then the B16b,B18,and B20 engines..

Like if you had a B16a shortblock next to a B18 shortblock both the same level the b18 is a taller block..For example my hood shuts fine with the b16a,,but with the lsvtec I had to do some trimming to the hood to get it to shut..

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Yes..and with the ge lsvtec kit you dont even have to get it machined..

 

awesome mr speaker what setup do you have in what car?

 

Its sold now,,but it was a 1750lb 88 crx hf..B18a block,arp rod bolts,acl maint and rod bearings,gsr oil and water pump,itr pistons,91 b16a head,00 itr valvetrain,ctr cams,megan 4-1 header,Mild porting on the head,turboedit,gsr fuel pump..Dyno number doesnt really matter ,,but it ran a high 12 with falken azenis at etown..Light cars are fast

 

awesome iight soo im going to have to find a good b18a block get the GE vtec kit slap it all together change the water pump and oil pump to gsr's and get a gsr timing belt right? dont i have to tap the head with the GE kit? also does it matter what year b18a/b block i get?

 

Yeah if you use the gsr waterpump get the gsr timing belt..The GE kit comes with everything you need ,,still have to tap it but it includes everything you need..Doesnt really matter what year block you get ,,I like to stick to 90-93 B18a just for the plain fact that they're cheaper..Chances are though the older engines may be bad condition..For me I didnt give a **** becaue I was rebuilding it anyway..

Also you're supposed to use gsr b18c head bolts for this,,I used b16 headbolts but the gsrs work better..

 

what would be the compression ratio on a stock ls block with a obd0 stock b16 head?