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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 03:30 PM
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I was told header wrap corrodes the header internally. Has anyone else heard this? Or know if it is true? Another thing, if anyone has put some on could you tell me your story on wrapping it. Leaving gaps for 02 sensors or what not. Thanks.
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 03:33 PM
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I am interested in this as well...I saw some awesome black header wrap that would definately clean up the engine bay and would probably help keep heat out of the engine bay considerably.
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 03:47 PM
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all i know is that you cant wrap ceramic header
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 03:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by db8gsr_teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">all i know is that you cant wrap ceramic header</TD></TR></TABLE>

aw shoots!
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 01:09 AM
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well, your all wrong...........

Wrapped my Ceramic coated Stillen header 6+ years ago.......



guess what part wasn't wrapped?

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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 01:27 AM
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lol^^^
btw, header wrap is probably one of the better , cheaper things you can do to your engine. keeps the bay alot cooler. therefore, increasing h.p.
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 01:29 AM
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hotter gasses escape out the header faster.......
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Old May 15, 2006 | 04:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by db8gsr_teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">all i know is that you cant wrap ceramic header</TD></TR></TABLE>

people have told me that it looks like the ceramic coating on my dc header has worn off and thats why i have some rust. if that is the case can i wrap it now? also i would only wrap the primary pipe with the 4 pipes, not the 2 or the collector.

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Old May 15, 2006 | 05:08 PM
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will try can u feel the power difference? iknow its a ricer question but a mechanic i work with told me he felt the power difference
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Old May 15, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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i heard that header wrap cuts down the life of the header. is this true? i have DC Sport ceramic headers so would it be safe and usefull to wrap em?

thanks
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Old May 15, 2006 | 05:57 PM
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The only thing bad header wrap will do is keep moister on the metal therefore making it rust faster. that's only if the wrap stays wet for prolonged amount of time. If you paint the surface then wrap it it should last a long time
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Old May 15, 2006 | 05:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mista Bone &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hotter gasses escape out the header faster.......</TD></TR></TABLE>

the header doesnt cool down. The radiant heat the header gives off is ruduced. If anything, it should make the exhaust system hotter, thefore faster exhaust flow through whatever given size piping.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 06:03 PM
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I was always told that wrapping headers keeps the exhaust gases hotter therefor keeping the velocity of the gases at a maximum. I could be wrong but the faster the gases go out, the more HP.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 06:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AllenEGCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was always told that wrapping headers keeps the exhaust gases hotter therefor keeping the velocity of the gases at a maximum. I could be wrong but the faster the gases go out, the more HP.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ditto, i've read that on a bunch of write ups. my only concern is header wear, i want to have my headers for atleast a couple more years, just wondering if its possible to last that long with wrapped headers...
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Old May 15, 2006 | 06:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civexspeedy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i heard that header wrap cuts down the life of the header. is this true? i have DC Sport ceramic headers so would it be safe and usefull to wrap em?

thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

dont wrap that. if ur in my situation, where the ceramic coating is gone, then u can.

at least thats what i heard. im still waiting for my answer.

also for me, i would only wrap top 4 pipes, and that rarely gets wet.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 06:13 PM
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how will the wraps stay or become moist and cause rust if there freakin hot, which will make the "moister" dry.?
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Old May 15, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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where can i order!
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Old May 15, 2006 | 07:05 PM
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Aight man wrapping a header. Does a couple things. Yes it does reduce the heat under your hood. But if you think about it\. All that held in heat. Stays in the header. What does heat cause. Hmmm.... Moisture. What does Moisture cause? Hmm.. Rust. And we all know what rust causes. Trust me don't wrap your header. I have known 4 people that have had thier headers colapse during a race. From wrapping them.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 07:58 PM
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if you look at the picture you can see the rust pits are in the design of the wrap.

honestly i wouldn't wrap a ceramic header, if anything get some of that heat resistant paint or have it powder coated.

but thats just my opinion after sanding one down after the wrap melted and pitted the hell out of it....
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Old May 15, 2006 | 08:56 PM
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get high temp paint and then wrap! every1 agrees
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Old May 18, 2006 | 12:59 AM
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wraping a stainless steel header would be fine. right?
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Old May 18, 2006 | 04:31 AM
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lets wrap the muffler
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Old May 18, 2006 | 04:55 AM
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i have always wrapped my headers. mine are stainless though, so rust isn;t a problem. BUT, they do crack due to excessive heat in them. it's ok though, i repaired my toda 2x because it cracked, and i will continue to do so as i think the benefit for my particular car far outweighs occasional welding.
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Old May 18, 2006 | 07:11 AM
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I love the part about heat causing moisture.
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Old May 18, 2006 | 07:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Wicked-Civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Aight man wrapping a header. Does a couple things. Yes it does reduce the heat under your hood. But if you think about it\. All that held in heat. Stays in the header. What does heat cause. Hmmm.... Moisture. What does Moisture cause? Hmm.. Rust. And we all know what rust causes. Trust me don't wrap your header. I have known 4 people that have had thier headers colapse during a race. From wrapping them.</TD></TR></TABLE>

WTF heat causes moisture?

actually the moisture from weather (i.e. rain, humid days) can actually get inbetween the wrap and metal and corrode the metal.

Mista Bone's header is ceramic coated- which prevents moisture from really hitting the metal, and why his header lasted so well. I would not reccomend this on bare metal surfaces... best would be to either paint, then wrap
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