Hey fellas I'm very close to buying a 1991 CRX HF but need to ask some of you CRX guru's a favor right away, how do I tell what engine this CRX has in it? The current owner of the CRX is a lady who tells me it had an engine swapped before she bought it but doesn't know what kind of engine it is?

I'd like to let her know very specifically what and where to look for in the engine so that she can let me know before I drive about 6 hours to see it this weekend.

Any descriptions, pictures (if possible), or links of exactly what to look for would be great and a huge help! I thank you guys in advance for your help. If all goes well and I get it I'll be posting more often real soon!

 

if she has a digital camera, that would be helpfull.. if not, hope that she is competent, cause she will be looking on the block for a block number...

 

Look for the number on the front of the block about 10" below the distributor. It should say D15 or similar.

 

The block code may be covered in oil or other types of dirtyness.

 

Thats where the engine code is, congratulations.
What does it matter though? it's not like this lady swapped in a K series.....

 

She may not have swapped in a K series motor, but she said that right before she bought it the PO had swapped an engine, but it looks all stock so I wasn't sure if it was all riced out or what?
That picture is exactly what I was looking for! Thanks GOcrxGO...at least if I go down there and find out it's not that I will have some more negotiating power...plus it's a good excuse to cruise to see some of my friends.

 

google is your friend

 

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Yep. Bring a rag and some brake cleaner.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by G0crxG0 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What does it matter though? it's not like this lady swapped in a K series.....</TD></TR></TABLE>

She could've swapped a B.
You're telling me you'd buy a car without knowing what engine is under the hood?

 

its gonna be a d15b monster motor bored to 13.1 liters

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mwieczorek43 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">She could've swapped a B.
You're telling me you'd buy a car without knowing what engine is under the hood? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Well, if some women owns it, and doesnt even know what kind of motors in it, it's more then likely just a replacement D. If the price was known, it'd pretty much be a for sure thing.
Depending on the price and condition, yes, I'd buy a CRX not knowing what was under the hood. If there was a CRX in decent body shape and described as running at a reasonable price, and I could see the car itself, I wouldn't care if the engine was unknown I'd buy it. There's only so many options it could be and none are that bad, so long as the price is right.

EDIT: BTW what was it???

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by G0crxG0 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Well, if some women owns it, and doesnt even know what kind of motors in it, it's more then likely just a replacement D. If the price was known, it'd pretty much be a for sure thing.
Depending on the price and condition, yes, I'd buy a CRX not knowing what was under the hood. If there was a CRX in decent body shape and described as running at a reasonable price, and I could see the car itself, I wouldn't care if the engine was unknown I'd buy it. There's only so many options it could be and none are that bad, so long as the price is right.

EDIT: BTW what was it???</TD></TR></TABLE>

If the body was in good condition I would buy it and put my motor in because i know it would be better than some granny's D series


yea did you find out what enigine

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by madmanmulligan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> If the body was in good condition I would buy it and put my motor in because i know it would be better than some granny's D series
</TD></TR></TABLE>yes, my point exactly. Thats why I said maybe she put a K in there though, you never know with grannys.....

 

It's possible there is a d15b swapped in there too. Or perhaps the infamous 13.1 liter bored out d16

 

More likely a D15-D16 MPFI non Vtec, or a vtec one but no vtec connected. At my job every other honda more then 10 years old has a replacement engine, most have a D15B but have the vtec solenoid taken off and a big metal plate put in it instead...I don't know why either.

 

Just an update (and to answer GOcrxGO's & madmanmulliga's question)...the owner (not a granny, just a late 20's to early 30's girl) took it to her mechanic and she told me the engine block had "D15B2-1109352" stamped on the plate, so I at least know it's a DX engine/transmission, not the HF replacement engine I was hoping for. I was looking for a stock HF for commuting and the excellent milage so it's a tough call since this car seems pretty clean compared to lots of other CRX's out there.

The car chassis has 190K miles and the DX engine was swapped in when the car had 150K, so this one has about 40K miles put on it by her, but don't know how many miles it had on it previously to that.

Just curious what do others with a stock CRX DX get milage (MPG) wise? I'm wondering if I would still get great milage considering it's a HF chassis.

Anyway here are some pics of it below. She's asking $2000 obo what do you guys think of it? She said it's been painted late last year and was painted the same stock color because the hood (she called it bonnet...lol) was a shade darker than the rest of the car and has been totally taken care of by her friend who's a professional mechanic, so it's not like she's tinkered (and messed it up) herself.
She said it's in perfect shape except for a slight dent on the passenger side's rear she get at Starbucks. Granted those are some crappy pics but the 'dent' is small enough you can't see it...she said it was about the size of a quarter (I made it sound like a big deal for some negotiating power but I don't really care )










Modified by 97SS at 2:46 PM 4/14/2006


Modified by 97SS at 3:21 PM 4/14/2006

 

Looks good, I'd get it.

 

It's damn clean, but thats a shitty paint job.
Wonder if they did a seatpan swap or just welded those prelude seats in there.
I'd tell her more like $1250 area

 

Looks likes its well taken care of, Go for it!

 

GOcrxGO: How can you say it's a shitty paint job from the pics? As low resolution as they are, it looks bad but she didn't get it painted at Earl Schieb or Maaco...so I just don't understand how you can make that kind of assesment. I'll know more about it when she emails me pictures directly instead of what was used in her ad.
I've looked around and there isn't anything for $1250. The one's I've only seen for a decent amount aren't all that great looking.

$2500 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/149035866.html
$2500 http://www.craigslist.org/nby/car/150032476.html
$3500 http://www.craigslist.org/eby/car/151049847.html
$3500 http://www.craigslist.org/eby/car/150797861.html
$3000 http://www.craigslist.org/sfc/car/150788028.html

And they're all regular CRX's...I think only one of them is a Si...so they're all pretty pricey given that they're all also high miles chassis and swapped engine on many of them, so I doubt she'd take $1250.


Modified by 97SS at 6:15 PM 4/14/2006

 

Hmm, I didn't take time to read this all but I might should have. CRX's come stock with D15b2's in the HF,DX version's which are dual point fuel injection, unless converted to multi port fuel injection they run off one primary injector and have a secondary. Good for gas mileage but not get up. I recommend if it hasn't been done, convert the intake manifold with a Si CRX intake manifold, si crx distributor, CRX Si computer (pm6) you will need to do quite some wiring...But I did see the pics, and it looks like a really clean shell man!

 

Thanks for the info sloB16crxmike but I'm basically looking for a crx for it's mpg for commuting, not for it's performance. I already have a 350Z and a 510 (actually faster than my Z in many regards) but neither one is great for commuting and premium gas only is a bitch and expensive. So if its HF shell with the CX's D15B2 is rated at 92 HP, that's plenty of a performance upgrade from the HF's D15B6's low 62 HP.

EDITED: My CRX newbieness reveresed the D and the B in the engine code


Modified by 97SS at 7:21 PM 4/14/2006


Modified by 97SS at 2:50 AM 4/15/2006

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97SS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for the info sloB16crxmike but I'm basically looking for a crx for it's mpg for commuting, not for it's performance. I already have a 350Z and a 510 (actually faster than my Z in many regards) but neither one is great for commuting and premium gas only is a bitch and expensive. So if its HF shell with the CX's B15D2 is rated at 92 HP, that's plenty of a performance upgrade from the HF's B15D6's low 62 HP.


Modified by 97SS at 7:21 PM 4/14/2006</TD></TR></TABLE>

Lol, u mean D15B2 and D15B6...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SloB16crxMike &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hmm, I didn't take time to read this all but I might should have. CRX's come stock with D15b2's in the HF,DX version's which are dual point fuel injection, unless converted to multi port fuel injection they run off one primary injector and have a secondary. Good for gas mileage but not get up. I recommend if it hasn't been done, convert the intake manifold with a Si CRX intake manifold, si crx distributor, CRX Si computer (pm6) you will need to do quite some wiring...But I did see the pics, and it looks like a really clean shell man!</TD></TR></TABLE>
hf's are multi-point, dx's are dual point

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97SS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">GOcrxGO: How can you say it's a shitty paint job from the pics? As low resolution as they are, it looks bad but she didn't get it painted at Earl Schieb or Maaco...so I just don't understand how you can make that kind of assesment. I'll know more about it when she emails me pictures directly instead of what was used in her ad.
I've looked around and there isn't anything for $1250. The one's I've only seen for a decent amount aren't all that great looking.

And they're all regular CRX's...I think only one of them is a Si...so they're all pretty pricey given that they're all also high miles chassis and swapped engine on many of them, so I doubt she'd take $1250.
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I mean they painted over the trim, so off rip it looks like ****. Otherwise it's not too bad, but I cant judge the rest as I'd need to see it in person

Look man, if you buy that CRX for $2k and the mystery engine takes a poo-doo on you, you'll have one EXPENSIVE shell on your hands.
There's absolutely no reason to think that womens car is a good one, only reasons to not trust it: DPFI engine in MPFI CRX, unknown orgin of engine, unknwon miles on engine......I mean, do I really need to say anymore?
All I know is this: If a Honda's got more then 100K on it I dont trust it unless A.I know the history of the car myself or it's well documented, B.The price is right.

Otherwise it's too risky. Dumb asses think their CRX is worth a thousands because it's a CRX. I mean, on Autotrader there are ones with damn near 200k on em and their askin 3 or 4 g's for em.

It appears your unfamiliar with Honda Marketplace, IMO it's the number one place to buy a Honda