I was going to get SS race header for my ep but DC discontinued.
So Im just thinking to get ceramic race header.
Is it true that Ceramic race header break easy?

 

If you are worried about it check out the Jackson racing race header.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EP3surfer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you are worried about it check out the Jackson racing race header.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I work at a shop, and we dont deal with Jackson Racing

 

I think Comptech also makes one, I don't remember if its a race header or not off the top of my head.

 

who cares, isnt it like 200 bucks? you can buy anohter one if it breaks. but yes, they do break more often

 

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If you get the stainless it wont crack or break as easily. And if you spend all of $20 on ESMM you will reduce wheel hop and it will be very rare you break the header.

 

The DC race header is not ceramic, it's ceramic "coated". It's actually made of mild steel, and then after it's made, they "paint" the ceramic material on there. As far as I know, the DCRH is pretty tough and the only times I hear of it breaking are when people put exhaust wrap on it. The ceramic coated is supposed to keep heat in the header to help accelerate exhaust gasses, and wrapping it makes it too hot. Plus, the wrap can trap water inside, and mild steel can rust, which could lead to cracks. So, don't wrap it. And also, like someone said before, get the ES motor mount inserts, as well as an engine damper (trust me, you want both together, not one or the other).

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by revtune &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The DC race header is not ceramic, it's ceramic "coated". It's actually made of mild steel, and then after it's made, they "paint" the ceramic material on there. As far as I know, the DCRH is pretty tough and the only times I hear of it breaking are when people put exhaust wrap on it. The ceramic coated is supposed to keep heat in the header to help accelerate exhaust gasses, and wrapping it makes it too hot. Plus, the wrap can trap water inside, and mild steel can rust, which could lead to cracks. So, don't wrap it. And also, like someone said before, get the ES motor mount inserts, as well as an engine damper (trust me, you want both together, not one or the other).</TD></TR></TABLE>
who makes engine damper?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by revtune &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The DC race header is not ceramic, it's ceramic "coated". It's actually made of mild steel, and then after it's made, they "paint" the ceramic material on there. As far as I know, the DCRH is pretty tough and the only times I hear of it breaking are when people put exhaust wrap on it. The ceramic coated is supposed to keep heat in the header to help accelerate exhaust gasses, and wrapping it makes it too hot. Plus, the wrap can trap water inside, and mild steel can rust, which could lead to cracks. So, don't wrap it. And also, like someone said before, get the ES motor mount inserts, as well as an engine damper (trust me, you want both together, not one or the other).</TD></TR></TABLE>
you don't need both. ESMM are much more popular though. If you want to get both go for it, they are both cheap. Personally i am running ESMM and i have not cracked my header or had any problems (i didnt wrap my header or exaust), its been bullet proof all the times i have launched the car (which is another reason to get the esmm or TD) and i am putting down some decent numbers.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by silver comet &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you don't need both. ESMM are much more popular though. If you want to get both go for it, they are both cheap. Personally i am running ESMM and i have not cracked my header or had any problems (i didnt wrap my header or exaust), its been bullet proof all the times i have launched the car (which is another reason to get the esmm or TD) and i am putting down some decent numbers.</TD></TR></TABLE>
can i have motor mounts installed without pulling my motor?

 

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can i have motor mounts installed without pulling my motor?
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yes.

 

Thanks guy. Im going to get engine damper esmm makes car vibrate.
They do same job right?

 

Both the ESMM and the TD will make the car vibrate a little. The TD you can adjust it though for when you're just cruising vs. racing. Ingalls makes one for both the DC5 and EP3...check out the website for your application (http://www.ingallseng.com/parts/stiffy.htm).

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by revtune &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">(trust me, you want both together, not one or the other).</TD></TR></TABLE>
why do you say that?

 

The idea of using both mount inserts & torque damper together is that the damper would minimize the vibrations from the inserts. Plus, both together will minimize wheel hop about as much as possible before going to all-new mounts (or packing your own high-stiffness polyurethane into the stock mounts).