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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 04:17 PM
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How do those numbers work? the ITR and the GSR in JDM codes? Or do they just not have them over there?

Like a I believe it's the GSR is the B18C1 and the ITR is the B18C5 (or vice versa...) anyways, in JDM wouldn't it only be a B18C.....so how would you know if it's an ITR or a GSR?
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 05:14 PM
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USDM GSR = B18C1
USDM type-R = B18C5
JDM GSR = B18C3
JDM type-R = B18C

Im around 90% sure...just off the top of my head
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 05:18 PM
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i don't believe all JDM gsr's were B18c3's...i could prolly find a JDM gsr on egay right now with the code B18c...it would have a Geezer mani still and a black valve cover
there are other ways of knowing as well

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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 05:19 PM
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itr have pr-3 heads and gsr have p-72 heads
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 05:21 PM
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Here ya go the Whole damn thing (sorry i was kinda bored)

B16 Acura Integra XSi/RSi 1992-1993
B16A Honda Civic SiR (JDM) 1989-1991
B16A Honda Civic (EDM) 1992-1995
B16A Honda Civic VTi 1996-2000
B16A Honda Del Sol/CRX SiR 1992-1996
B16A Honda Civic SiR (JDM-Hatch) 1989-1992
B16A1 Honda CRX 1.6i/VTi (EDM) 1989-1992
B16A1 Honda CRX SiR 1990-1991
B16A1 Honda Civic SiR (JDM) 1990-1991
B16A2 Honda Civic Si 1999-2000
B16A2 Honda Civic SiRII (JDM) 1992-1995
B16A2 Honda Del Sol (JDM) 1993-1995
B16A3 Honda Del Sol 1992-1995
B16B Honda Civic Type R (JDM) 1998-2001
B17A1 Acura Integra GSR 1992-1993
B18A1 Acura Integra GS 1990-1991
B18A1 Acura Integra GS 1992-1993
B18B1 Acura Integra GS/LS/RS 1994-1995
B18B1 Acura Integra GS/LS/RS 1996-2000
B18C Acura Integra SiR (JDM) 1995-1997
B18C1 Acura Integra GSR 1994-2001
B18C3 Honda Integra Type R 1995-1998
B18C5 Acura Integra Type R 1998-2001
B18C5 Honda Integra Type R 1997-2001
B20A3 Honda Prelude 2.0 S 1990-1991
B20A5 Honda Prelude 2.0 Si 1990-1991
B20A5 Honda Prelude Si 1988-1989
B20A5 Honda Prelude Si 1988-1989
B20B Honda CRV 1997-1998
B20Z Honda CRV 1998-2001
B21A1 Honda Prelude Si 1990-1991
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 05:23 PM
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The head will always tell the truth no matter what. Search and you will see and understand.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 10:31 PM
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Assuming that the engines are stock, the intake manifold gives it away.
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 01:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by props_honda85 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here ya go the Whole damn thing (sorry i was kinda bored)
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Alot of those years are wrong..In Japan they were a year ahead of use..For example our 90-93 integra = their 89-92 integra..Our 88-91 civic = their 87-90 civic..etc,etc,etc..Im not getting into that right now though..

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How do those numbers work? the ITR and the GSR in JDM codes? Or do they just not have them over there?

Like a I believe it's the GSR is the B18C1 and the ITR is the B18C5 (or vice versa...) anyways, in JDM wouldn't it only be a B18C.....so how would you know if it's an ITR or a GSR?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes you are correct,,No numbers after the engine code for jdm models......northamerica and europe models have the numbers after the engine code..

So as far as japan goes,,both the itr engine and the sir-g (gsr) have B18c stamped on them..Its pretty simple to tell the difference,,The gsr intake manifold is much much different then the itr intake manifold..


GSR dual plenum intake manifold



ITR single plenum intake manifold




Modified by Mr.speaker at 2:39 AM 4/13/2006
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 10:02 PM
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jdm typr r-b18c with a little R dotted next to the c plus the pr3 head and the date stamp on the head could help
jdm gsr-b18c
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 10:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheCheeseWedge &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">jdm typr r-b18c with a little R dotted next to the c plus the pr3 head and the date stamp on the head could help
jdm gsr-b18c</TD></TR></TABLE>

sorry.. what? i didn't quite catch that
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 10:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheCheeseWedge &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">jdm typr r-b18c with a little R dotted next to the c plus the pr3 head and the date stamp on the head could help
jdm gsr-b18c</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ive never heard or seen an integra type-r engine with "R" stamped next to the engine code..

But yes, you are right about the pr3 head..The itr engine would have pr3-xxx on it and gsr would have P72 on the head..
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by e gee two &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

sorry.. what? i didn't quite catch that</TD></TR></TABLE>

the date stamp on the head, showing the year of the head. if the date is before 1996 then there is no way it would be a type r. the pr3/p72 is a dead giveaway though

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.speaker &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Ive never heard or seen an integra type-r engine with "R" stamped next to the engine code..

But yes, you are right about the pr3 head..The itr engine would have pr3-xxx on it and gsr would have P72 on the head..</TD></TR></TABLE>

ive seen it twice. it must not be a normal block stamping. i could have swore i saw it at a local shop on a spoon motor ill go by there and check and post pics if its there. what about the oil cooler on the back of the block or is that for the gsr also?
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 08:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheCheeseWedge &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the date stamp on the head, showing the year of the head. if the date is before 1996 then there is no way it would be a type r. the pr3/p72 is a dead giveaway though

ive seen it twice. it must not be a normal block stamping. i could have swore i saw it at a local shop on a spoon motor ill go by there and check and post pics if its there. what about the oil cooler on the back of the block or is that for the gsr also?</TD></TR></TABLE>


okay first of all i know what a stamp looks like. there is no such thing as b18cR. it would just say b18c,c5 etc.

as for the so called spoon motor with the R on it. they must have stamped it themselves because spoon motors only have b18c stamped no vins. here's proof http://inlinefour.com/spoonbserena.html
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 09:49 PM
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jdm gsr
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 10:00 PM
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well i can tell you how to tell if its USDM or JDM

the jdm one will smell like sushi



-SRH (who had yto take a whiff of his brother's jdm b16 that was sitting in the back yard)
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 10:45 PM
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USDM Motors have a number at the end of the code, JDM motors don't example: jdm b18c, jdm b16a, jdm h22a, jdm k20a, etc.

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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 11:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jimmy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">USDM Motors have a number at the end of the code, JDM motors don't example: jdm b18c, jdm b16a, jdm h22a, jdm k20a, etc.

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Did you actually read anything outside the title?
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 11:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by e gee two &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


okay first of all i know what a stamp looks like. there is no such thing as b18cR. it would just say b18c,c5 etc.

as for the so called spoon motor with the R on it. they must have stamped it themselves because spoon motors only have b18c stamped no vins. here's proof http://inlinefour.com/spoonbserena.html</TD></TR></TABLE>

look there is no need to get so butthurt over a stamp, damn lol. i just said what i saw and i thought that it might be a destinguishing feature or something spoon had marked extra on it, but obviously it isnt and that point has been made previously. so calm the f uck down
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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 12:01 AM
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haha.,. sorry you read it and took it wrong. i never get serious on ht its just discussion
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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 12:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by e gee two &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">haha.,. sorry you read it and took it wrong. i never get serious on ht its just discussion </TD></TR></TABLE>

good ****
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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 02:13 AM
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explore the head...make sure you get what youpay for:

Type-R: Dual Valve Springs and Indicator Rings On The Camshafts

...but its all about the H-Series
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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 06:17 AM
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ah don't worry....I do not have enough budget for this honda for a GSR or ITR, I was just wondering what the JDM would put as they don't hav ea number to differentiate...
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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 08:59 PM
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o,ok well that being said i recommend closing this thread as the discussion is closed
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