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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 09:08 AM
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can anyone help?....i have a 99 accord ex and the check engine light is on, the code is P0420, something to do with the cataylic converter...it runs and doesnt seem to have any issues jsut a little doggy at times.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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Get an infra red heat gun and take temprature readings on the converter (with the car running and the cooling fans have cycled atleast 2 times) The outlet temprature should be 100 degrees cooler than the inlet temprature. If it's less than 100 degrees difference then the converter is bad.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 06:58 PM
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how did you get that code? if you have a scanner or know somebody that does you're better off checking the readings of the 02 sensors so you can be sure of the problem...checking the temp of the catalytic converete works most of the time but for something this expensive I would rather be 100% sure than broke trying to chase down these kinds of problems

btw MooGoCow3, are you sure the info about the temperature difference you are giving is correct?
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 04:53 AM
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my brother is my mechanic, he works at a private shop not a dealer and thats what he told me...i'll pass along the info, thanks a bunch!
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 07:44 AM
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I had it backwards sorry.
Honda Service News October 1998
"Measure the inlet and outlet external temperatures of
the catalytic converter with a thermometer capable
of reading up to 500°F.
*If the outlet temperature is more than 100°F hotter
than the inlet temperature, the converter is OK;
clear the DTC, and return the vehicle to the
customer.
* If the outlet temperature is less than 100°F hotter
than the inlet temperature, replace the converter."
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 11:35 AM
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oops i forgot an important detail (maybe) the light goes on and off, it'l be on for a few weeks then it goes off for a few days......same problem maybe?????
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 11:59 AM
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Just follow the steps I provided in my post before this one and that can narrow the problem down for us.
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 09:47 AM
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ANY IDEA HOW MUCH A CONVERTER COSTS? HOW ABOUT LABOR HOURS, GOT A GUESS?????
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 03:40 PM
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Service bulletin 03-073 (11/2003) says to replace the cat.
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 12:05 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pjz99accord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ANY IDEA HOW MUCH A CONVERTER COSTS? HOW ABOUT LABOR HOURS, GOT A GUESS?????</TD></TR></TABLE>

OEM will be really expensive...like i would guess 1000$, u can get aftermarket ones for cheaper, direct bolt on maybe a few hundred or I know that muffler shops do them and they can weld one onto the existing flanges of your old catalytic converter for not too much
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 12:26 AM
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there are problems with the reliability of aftermarket cats for the accords.......
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 05:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BluLude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OEM will be really expensive...like i would guess 1000$, </TD></TR></TABLE>
The price for the part has dropped a bit to the mid 500s.
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 02:12 PM
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My 6th Gen Accord has an aftermarket CAT, so far very well
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 04:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ujhonda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My 6th Gen Accord has an aftermarket CAT, so far very well </TD></TR></TABLE>
What brand is it? We haven't had any luck with a/m cats at all.
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Old Apr 24, 2006 | 05:11 AM
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has anyone heard about extended warrenty from honda on these things? i heard there were alot of problems with the 98 & 99 accords with the cat....
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Old Apr 24, 2006 | 05:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chiovnidca &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What brand is it? We haven't had any luck with a/m cats at all.</TD></TR></TABLE>

no brand name, midas installed that for me, cost me only $375.00 + labour, but Honda Dealer asked me $850.00 CDN + labour as usual rippo

So far I didn't notice any issue with it, no engine lite or fuel too rich or anything - also I smel check whats coming out from my muffler, smel like TomyHilFiger
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Old Apr 24, 2006 | 01:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pjz99accord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">has anyone heard about extended warrenty from honda on these things? i heard there were alot of problems with the 98 & 99 accords with the cat....</TD></TR></TABLE>
They dont have an extended warranty on the cats. The regular is 8 years or 80000 miles.
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