when i get my ef hb i want to build a D series an go non vtec all motor and i wanted to no what D engine would be best for my build app?

 

d16a6

 

if i remember correctly any d series engine bolts to the stock ef mounts?and what about the best head and what internals should i use?

 

yes that will bolt up

 

best non vtec head is the one that you have.....put a cam and valve springs in it and I got a set of d 16a1 rods and pistons I could sell you that will give you a nice bump in compression........pm me

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gnar kill &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">.put a cam and valve springs in it </TD></TR></TABLE>
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i thought oem sohc springs were good to 9k...is it just vtecsohc springs???

btw NA non Vtec dseries is going no were fast...at least put an 18g on it...

 

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i thought oem sohc springs were good to 9k...is it just vtecsohc springs???

btw NA non Vtec dseries is going no were fast...at least put an 18g on it...</TD></TR></TABLE>

agreed, building a non vtec d16 might get you 130whp. unless you feel like dumping a lot of money in it.

 

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i dont have the car now this is in the near future.im just planning for my build.

 

itb's... see "mr. john" hes got a stock d15b i think it is and put down 131whp untuned.. i forget what he put down tuned...

j/w why non-vtec.. the vtec head is usualy the first step im makend even a 1/2 decent sohc.. though like anything else there are exceptions

 

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agreed, building a non vtec d16 might get you 130whp. unless you feel like dumping a lot of money in it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i want to do something you dont see everyday and for some reason i just like the d series sohc non vtec

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by si0385. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">itb's... see "mr. john" hes got a stock d15b i think it is and put down 131whp untuned.. i forget what he put down tuned...

j/w why non-vtec.. the vtec head is usualy the first step im makend even a 1/2 decent sohc.. though like anything else there are exceptions</TD></TR></TABLE>

i dont want vtec and i want to go with mpfi.

 

there is a reason you don't see it everyday though...

Why would you want to go all motor non vtec, when you can get a vtec and put out more, for nearly the same price?

Doesn't make sense. But do what you wanna do.

 

d16y7 is also a good motor, and its not that old....... I have it in my car, and the performance is good.

 

i just finished a a6/y7 non vtec mini me and 5 speed swap with si tranny on my 1991 civic ex auto!! havent driven it yet though cuz my seats are sold and i am waiting for my new ones this week. should run kinda strong. 10.3:1 comp with cai, header, clutch and exhaust.. cant wait to drive it - i will report back here for driving impressions.

 

hey if you want to do an all motor non vtec more power to him....they can be fun there was a video of the one homemadeturbo.com made and I thought it was damn sick and the used all oem honda parts. maybe it is not the baest bang for your buck but hey I think it is cool. BTW stock d16 valve springs are not good to 9k.....my zex stage tow cam is only supposed to make power till about 7800 with valve springs. with an after market cam you need the right springs since they are bieng pushed down further between each revolution. They also make more aggressive cams for the non vtec than the vtec sohc, with a good port and polish mated up with a good mani it can be a peppy little car. Also the non vtecs have less moving parts in the valvetrain and are a little bit simpler. just my 2 cents

 

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wtf?!?!?!? i think you need to do a little more research before you start this build

 

cuz he wanna be fast and save gas at the same time. any hp over a stock si is dencent cuz our cars or so much light than everyone elses.

 

Hmm keep us posted on wats going on. I think Si0385 is right, a little bit more research can never go astray. I have a D15b4 and its rather breathless. Ive been driven in a D16 and it didnt feel that impressive ( that much more impressive) over mine.

 

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wtf?!?!?!? i think you need to do a little more research before you start this build</TD></TR></TABLE>

are you suggesting that i do something different than a d series non vtec build because i have already made up my mind.

 

Dont waste your time or money in the end you will want more power.


get yourself A D16Z6 out of a EG Si

 

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nope, do what you want its your car... but dont ask for oppinions on this site if your not oppen to them.

 

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thats from this thread
https://honda-tech.com/zero...75189

+ ive used them to just above 8.5k

 

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thats from this thread
https://honda-tech.com/zero...75189

+ ive used them to just above 8.5k </TD></TR></TABLE>
it's the retainer you have to worry about. i have the ISKY valvetrain, which by many accounts uses stock springs, but titanium retainers.
a no-VTEC D16 is fun, you can build one for relatively cheap.
do a search, there have been plenty stories about it.
it will be a very peaky engine, and in my case 13:1 CR is difficult to find fuel for. forget about driving an engine like that on the street

 

Turbo a D16A1 or ZC. 75.5mm bore x 90mm stoke = good torque.