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Camber kit? LCA? Toe? What do i replace to fix my wheel

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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 12:23 AM
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need to get my tires standing up straight instead of pushed in because i dont want my tires worn down in like 5months. these are expensive tires but i dunno what to replace exactly.. im looking for what i need to replace to fix my problem and will also give me a better ride at the same time and look nice from the rear





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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 01:09 AM
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Get a camber kit, or you can use washers, you might have to get longer bolts...but that depends on how many washers you will end up using.
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 05:01 AM
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Some negative camber is good. Just get a front camber kit and an alignment, cause toe KILLS tires. If you want a rear kit, just go with the washer trick. It's cheap and easy. Get it aligned with 0 toe all around. Toe, not camber destroys tires.
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 06:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zseeanz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Some negative camber is good. Just get a front camber kit and an alignment, cause toe KILLS tires. If you want a rear kit, just go with the washer trick. It's cheap and easy. Get it aligned with 0 toe all around. Toe, not camber destroys tires.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 07:17 AM
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any threads that explain how to do the washer trick in the back
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 07:27 AM
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http://home.earthlink.net/~civ....html
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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thank you
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 09:37 PM
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washer trick?
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 09:46 PM
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the washer trick is a DIY camber adjustment for the ear wheels by adding spacers behing the uca. read the link
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 09:22 AM
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once te bolts are tightened down, they arent gonna come loose in anyway right?
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 09:43 AM
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Take it to an alignment shop.

Camber doesn't kill tires, toe does.


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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 11:53 PM
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what if i get it aligned but end up lowering my car or lifting it up a bit. isnt that gonna ruin the alignment?
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 12:01 AM
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You're having the same problem I'm having on my car. I'm just taking it in for alignment. Just figure out what height you're going to keep it at, then get the alignment done. Everytime you remove your suspension to raise or lower it the alignment should be done again. Interestingly, you also have the same setup as me: KYB AGX and ground controls with eibach springs, correct?
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 12:03 AM
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if its a bit higher or lower it should be cool.. but IMO anymore than 2" in height change i would go get an alignment
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 08:11 AM
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ok first off camber and toe does wear tires (caster doesnt). a little bit is ok but not a whole 3-4 degrees like that. from the looks of it you will need the kit in the front and rears. you could do that washer trick but that takes too much time. you're probably better off with the kit. its easier to adjust. just install it then bring it in for the alignment. they wont charge you extra for that adjustment as long as you've got a way to adjust it.


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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 01:05 PM
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I dropped my car 1.5 inches and the alignment was messed up (I haven't done alignment since and that was in October), it's supposed to be a safety precaution to allign your car. Isn't it anymore than 1.5 inches needs a camber kit?

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I called the auto shop about aligning my car, and this may not be true for all shops, but if you have a camber kit it's more expensive to get it aligned. I don't know why, but they quoted me $80 without camber kit and $100 with camber kit. So you might want to look into that
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 01:33 PM
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they're ripping you. ok tell them if it was a older ford with the bushings for camber would they charge extra for loosing the bolt and turning the bushing? i think it's bull they're hateing because it an import. tell them to eat it. stock or not it's still part of the alignment. here in mn we only charge from 39.99-69.99 front-69.99-100
for the 4 wheel alignment. keep in mind with hell of rust!!!!!!!!
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 01:39 PM
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just get the kits.. its easier..
p.s. i have the same tires.. they kick *** you dont wanna ruin those badboys
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 01:40 PM
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what kinda tires are those?
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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Actually it was a shop called motorsports, they're an official honda/ acura repair shop. I've never known honda dealers/ official honda related companies to be cheap, so I guess that's expected.
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 09:21 PM
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Well i got 2 on both bolt holes on both sides in my rear, even though im not sure if my car is really 2" inches droped or 4". I dropped it about 2" while backn on the stock 13's, then when i threw on my good wheels that were 15's, it went back up so i dropped it another 2" to get it back to the height it originally was with the 13's.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 12:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spoonracer84eg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what kinda tires are those?</TD></TR></TABLE>

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...KDW+2
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 06:40 AM
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http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...KDW+2</TD></TR></TABLE>

Those tires suck, from the reviews.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 08:43 AM
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Raise your car, because it's WAY too low.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zseeanz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Some negative camber is good.</TD></TR></TABLE>
. . . but that is way too much for the rear. It's going to understeer like a pig. You always want less negative camber in the rear than in the front.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 12:43 PM
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how much negative camber is good? I'm taking my car in for alignment and I'm wondering if neutral camber or some negative is better. Like how many degrees? Because I don't want enough to unevenly wear my tires. Planning to DD and maybe autox once in a while.
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