Ksport LCA with stock sway bar on a 1991 civic si
When installing a set of ksport coilovers and rear LCA's we ran into a problem. The car was a 91 si hatch, so it has factory rear sway bar. The ksport lca has the hole for the sway bar, but it isnt shaped the same as the factory lca so when it come time to bolt on the sway bar, the end link is too far away.
You can pivot the end link so the bolt will barely go through the lca, but the angle is to sharp and the end link doesnt sit flat on the lca. the only way we could get it to work was to add a bunch of washers between the end link and lca so we would tighten it down without a harsh angle.
has anyone ran into this problem? if so is there a better way to fix it? seems like ksport should have including some type of spacer, but they didnt.
You can pivot the end link so the bolt will barely go through the lca, but the angle is to sharp and the end link doesnt sit flat on the lca. the only way we could get it to work was to add a bunch of washers between the end link and lca so we would tighten it down without a harsh angle.
has anyone ran into this problem? if so is there a better way to fix it? seems like ksport should have including some type of spacer, but they didnt.
The hole in the LCA is not designed to work with the swaybars on the EF's. If you're looking for a way to fix it, you should do exactly what you said; add spacers so that the endlinks do not sit at such an extreme angle (ideally, perpendicular to the ground).
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PIC Performance »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The hole in the LCA is not designed to work with the swaybars on the EF's. If you're looking for a way to fix it, you should do exactly what you said; add spacers so that the endlinks do not sit at such an extreme angle (ideally, perpendicular to the ground). </TD></TR></TABLE>
thanks for the reply...only problem with the washers are they are might try to shift around a little since we could find ones with a perfect fit on the bolt there were a large enough diameter.
i guess the absolute best fix would be to find the total length we need then try to find a single spacer that would work and is a nice tight fit on the bolt, or possibly just get something machined. To bad Ksport doesnt even address the problem. It wouldnt be hard for a place with their resources to get some nice spacers machined .
thanks for the reply...only problem with the washers are they are might try to shift around a little since we could find ones with a perfect fit on the bolt there were a large enough diameter.
i guess the absolute best fix would be to find the total length we need then try to find a single spacer that would work and is a nice tight fit on the bolt, or possibly just get something machined. To bad Ksport doesnt even address the problem. It wouldnt be hard for a place with their resources to get some nice spacers machined .
Well if the distance that you have to close is that much, then you might want to reconsider. With one spacer or a stack of washers, either way you'd be changing the effectiveness of the bar by having such abig distance in that area, where normally the endlink is more solidly secured to the LCA.
Do you have any pictures btw?
Do you have any pictures btw?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PIC Performance »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well if the distance that you have to close is that much, then you might want to reconsider. With one spacer or a stack of washers, either way you'd be changing the effectiveness of the bar by having such abig distance in that area, where normally the endlink is more solidly secured to the LCA.
Do you have any pictures btw?</TD></TR></TABLE>
no pics right now but we will probably have to go in and measure everything in the next couple days to try and figure out a better solution. Ill snap some pics then.
I think the best solution besides relocation the entire sway bar is to get a nice big solid aluminum spacer made. Even then its not going to be ideal though.
the distance is probably around 1" or so. We used 7 washers (not sure of the thickness of each) and it probably could have taken at least 1 or 2 more to get it perfect. Since the sway bar hole on the LCA is recessed a bit, we also had to compensate even more then if the bar was just flat.
Do you have any pictures btw?</TD></TR></TABLE>
no pics right now but we will probably have to go in and measure everything in the next couple days to try and figure out a better solution. Ill snap some pics then.
I think the best solution besides relocation the entire sway bar is to get a nice big solid aluminum spacer made. Even then its not going to be ideal though.
the distance is probably around 1" or so. We used 7 washers (not sure of the thickness of each) and it probably could have taken at least 1 or 2 more to get it perfect. Since the sway bar hole on the LCA is recessed a bit, we also had to compensate even more then if the bar was just flat.
Oh ok well 1" is not terrible. I ran around with the arms at maybe a 10 degree angle on my integra and had no issues with tear out. The bar was a 19mm, spring rates in the rear were 8kg/mm.
Although with the way the swaybars mount on EF's, I don't think any sort of tear out is a problem. If anything, the angle would just alter the effectiveness of the bar.
If you did get a 1" section of aluminum spacer made, I would worry about damage to the LCA, since the recessed hold actually reduces the thickness quite a bit; I think maybe that section is ~5mm thick? Its like adding a 1" lever, instead of having the endlink directly in contact its mounting point.
Although with the way the swaybars mount on EF's, I don't think any sort of tear out is a problem. If anything, the angle would just alter the effectiveness of the bar.
If you did get a 1" section of aluminum spacer made, I would worry about damage to the LCA, since the recessed hold actually reduces the thickness quite a bit; I think maybe that section is ~5mm thick? Its like adding a 1" lever, instead of having the endlink directly in contact its mounting point.
thats a good point about the thickness of the lca. We will probably just get the AL spacer made then put a nice thick washer/spacer on the other side of the lca before the nut to increase the surface area and reduce the chance of damaging the lca.
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Yeah that sounds like a plan; let us know how it turns out, I'm sure we've got more than one EF member on here that will eventually run into the same predicament.
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