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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 05:40 PM
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Default Full Throttle Shift on CROME, how does it work?

I'm new to CROME and I just looked at the extra features plug in which includes a boost limiter, launch control, CEL shift light, and full throttle shift.

I was just wondering how full throttle shift works and what RPM to set it at?
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 09:52 PM
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FTS requires wiring in a switch to your clutch pedal lever. Too much hassel in my opinion, just practice shifting fast.
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 04:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sohc_turd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">FTS requires wiring in a switch to your clutch pedal lever. Too much hassel in my opinion, just practice shifting fast.</TD></TR></TABLE>

wouldn't the stock clutch switch work??
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 05:09 AM
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well, first WOT shifting is a huge advantage over "shifting fast" so if you can get it working, you should. second, if its anything like the hondata version, you'll need to install a switch because the factory one works backwards from how it wants the signal. (open vs. closed when clutch is in)
Third, the setting that works for your car will be different than other peoples, so you'll have to test it out.
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 04:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GetawayInMoscow &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm new to CROME and I just looked at the extra features plug in which includes a boost limiter, launch control, CEL shift light, and full throttle shift.

I was just wondering how full throttle shift works and what RPM to set it at? </TD></TR></TABLE>

it alters ignition timing so that even though the air and fuel are going into the engine under the wide open throttle, the ignition is not happeneing so it does not continue to rev up and when the clutch is released the ignition goes back to normal.
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 10:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.E.G. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

it alters ignition timing so that even though the air and fuel are going into the engine under the wide open throttle, the ignition is not happeneing so it does not continue to rev up and when the clutch is released the ignition goes back to normal.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Is this done with a clutch switch like on hondata? Also what RPM should I set it at if I don't want to use it?
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 01:17 PM
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i dont want to pretend like i am an expert, and in fact i have never used chrome, but i am willing to bet that it requires a switch connected to the clutch pedal based on the fact that it cant be triggered by a wot signal alone or other wise you would allways be cutting the ignition under full throttle, and that would be counter productive.

but seriously, if you dont want to use it then set it really high, higher than you normally shift at and you will never see the operating conditions in which it engages. but, i dont see why you wouldnt just leave it where it is optimal for racing and then just not shift at full throttle under normal conditions.
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 12:54 AM
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As far as i know Crome's FTL/FTS is fuel cut.
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 01:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sohc_turd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As far as i know Crome's FTL/FTS is fuel cut. </TD></TR></TABLE>

could very well be. i really dont know much about chrome other than what i read about it like 3 years ago when i was considering it. either way, they stop spraying or stop sparking. the result is the same and it shouldnt really matter to the user.
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 02:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.E.G. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
the result is the same and it shouldnt really matter to the user.</TD></TR></TABLE>

it matters when you are spraying!
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 02:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.E.G. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">could very well be. i really dont know much about chrome other than what i read about it like 3 years ago when i was considering it. either way, they stop spraying or stop sparking. the result is the same and it shouldnt really matter to the user.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i don't know much about chrome either, i actually preffer a low gloss finish on my wheels and bumpers. I once had chrome wheels on my tricycle when i was little, but i didn't know you could get them to spark and spray.
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 02:48 PM
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 05:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sohc_turd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i don't know much about chrome either, i actually preffer a low gloss finish on my wheels and bumpers. I once had chrome wheels on my tricycle when i was little, but i didn't know you could get them to spark and spray.</TD></TR></TABLE>

hardee ******* har.
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 06:00 PM
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to the original poster:

http://www.tunewithcrome.com/

or http//www.pgmfi.org/

i am only speculating at how this stuff works. the little that i know or more accuratley "knew" about crome comes from when i did some research several years back. as far as how it controls full throttle shifting there are only so many ways to skin a cat and if you understand basic engine concepts then it is obvious that they are taking something (appearently fuel as someone pointed out) out of the equation so that the engine doesnt over rev. it could work this way or that way, or it could be powered by meth addict elves that live in your ***. either way it works and you should take advantage of it.

check out those websites. i am sure that if you ask the guys on pgmfi the same question that you will get 1 billion answers and all of which come from people that actually have used this stuff. good luck
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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Well I understand the concept of it, I was just wondering if they figured something out that hondata didn't to do it w/o having to install a clutch pedal switch.

PGMFI moves really slow and I figured with how popular crome was these days tons of people in the 'drag racing' forum would use it.
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 06:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GetawayInMoscow &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well I understand the concept of it, I was just wondering if they figured something out that hondata didn't to do it w/o having to install a clutch pedal switch.

PGMFI moves really slow and I figured with how popular crome was these days tons of people in the 'drag racing' forum would use it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

unfortunatley for you, this is hondata town.
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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Hmm, I would hope it would cut fuel not spark(well it could do both).. but if ur staying at wot and it just cuts spark.. wouldnt there be a bunch of unburned a/f mixture waiting to pop the second spark came back on!?!?! That sounds pretty sketchy to me.

ALSO just to make sure I understand this correctly, if you setup the FTS, it will let you go through your gears at WOT without ever having to release the gas pedal??
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 09:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hmm, I would hope it would cut fuel not spark(well it could do both).. but if ur staying at wot and it just cuts spark.. wouldnt there be a bunch of unburned a/f mixture waiting to pop the second spark came back on!?!?! That sounds pretty sketchy to me.

ALSO just to make sure I understand this correctly, if you setup the FTS, it will let you go through your gears at WOT without ever having to release the gas pedal??</TD></TR></TABLE>

You can get the job done pulling either fuel or spark. My understanding is that when spark is pulled, like in the MSD units, its not all pulled at once in all cylinders, its actually random individual cylinders in super short intervals. Thats why you get that cool cracking/poping sound.

i have my suspicions on fuel cut at WOT on a boosted car, but i havn't experienced any ill effects yet. It could be all mental.

Crome doesn't have ignition cut YET.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 02:21 AM
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i'd rather have my spark cut, so there is no change i go lean on some cycles. let it burn in the exhaust, fine by me
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 07:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wolve &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i'd rather have my spark cut, so there is no change i go lean on some cycles. let it burn in the exhaust, fine by me </TD></TR></TABLE>

woRD!

plus it could work as a tool to build boost off the line.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 08:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sohc_turd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

woRD!

plus it DOES work as a tool to build boost off the line.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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