I feel uneasy making this post, but felt compelled to get some opinions from you guys about this...

Where I live there are almost no caRs in the area, other than mine. (I've only seen two others briefly over the last 6 years!) Recently I noticed another black R frequently parked in the same location at a shopping center. Looks legit from the outside, and I was tempted to try and locate the owner just to talk about caRs...

I know someone who works in the DMV, and I asked them to check out the tag (which is long expired on the caR!). The VIN (JH4DC2389RS******) revealed that that tag # belongs to a mid 90's Integra, and is not Type R! (Anyone know if that is an RS VIN?)

I don't want to check the VIN in his front window, or peek inside to check the redline to verify this discrepancy, but if that is a real caR something is very fishy about the registration.

I know it's really none of my business, and some of you might be upset at my checking this out. But from this forum, I know that R owners look out for each other and I feel the same way. My contact cannot find out if there are any stolen Type R's around without the real VIN. The VIN associated with that plate is not stolen.

What would you guys do, if anything?... I don't think someone would park a stolen R in the daytime where it sits, or drive one with expired tags. Maybe I'm making a mountain out of a molehill, but I'd appreciate some feedback on this...

 

Take 10 seconds and write down the vin, if he asks, just say you were checking out his car.

Or make a few trips and get a section at a time so you don't have to write it all down at once and look suspicious.

 

ITR vin is JH4DC231XXXXX

 

No offense...but why does it matter! So what if the guy wants his non-ITR to look like a real one. His money and effort! The only time for concern would be if the guy is posting the car for sale as a real ITR. Since no "for sale" sign was mentioned, leave the guy and his car alone.

 

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Yes, it is none of your business, and you should stay away from other peoples property. If the R is a lookalike, that's the owners perogative.

And you standing over HIS car jotting down HIS VIN makes you no better than the thieves. Pretty brazen and dishonest if you ask me.

 

if you want the vin you could just go up to the car with a nice digital camera and snap a fast pic.

 

walk up and check the first digits of the vin....just like Dave_B said....

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If the VIN is not a ITR VIN...then there's no problem....RS VIN w/ RS plates is not a problem...

 

I guess I should forget about this... If it is not an R, then he is simply driving on expired tags.

If it is an R, then it is illegally registered at the least.

But there is nothing I can do without checking the car VIN, and I don't feel comfortable doing that...

Thanks for the replies - Mods can lock this thread if they want.

 

is it possible the owner worked something out with his insurance and has it insured as a lesser model integra to save on insurance costs?

either way, I think you should be careful how far you take this. if anything, and you feel determined, drive your R over there and see if you can get a chit chat going.

 

My insurer didn't have any listing for an "R". The GSR was the closest they could do. I know another company that an R owner got the RS listing because it "didn't have a sunroof".

I wouldn't worry about this other than bs'ing about cars with the guy. Just because it isn't real doesn't mean he's a bad guy. Perhaps the real R just wasn't available to him/her.

 

Its a GSR tag. RS integras are JH4DC4NN etc.

 

You realize that this is potentially illegal, you looking up someone elses's DMV info.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BudMan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My insurer didn't have any listing for an "R". The GSR was the closest they could do. I know another company that an R owner got the RS listing because it "didn't have a sunroof".

I wouldn't worry about this other than bs'ing about cars with the guy. Just because it isn't real doesn't mean he's a bad guy. Perhaps the real R just wasn't available to him/her.

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That would make sense too....but If you get the car insured as an RS or GS-R, I assume they will only cover it for the value of an RS or GS-R? That would really suck.

 

On the other hand, the car looks exactly like an R. It could be a stolen R that's gotten its vin plates changed. I've heard of that happening before.

Check if it's a real R by looking underneath in the back at the rear tie bar. If it has a type R rear subframe (with the brace) then I would have it investigated by local authorities. The reason is that changing the rear subframe just for the reinforcements wouldn't make sense and would mean that the car in question is a real type R with fake VIN.
In my eyes, if the car has an Illegal VIN Number (IE VIN does Not Match Car) then the driver better be able to prove it's legit! I hate thieves!

 

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In this state we can send $$$ to the DMV with a tag number, and get the owner information.

 

I believe DC2's are all GSR's. DC4's are GS/LS/RS's.

But, it really doesn't matter. If I owned that car (only in my worst nightmares), I'd be pissed if I saw someone peeking in or worse, running my VIN at the DMV.

 

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In this state we can send $$$ to the DMV with a tag number, and get the owner information.

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Didn't they do that in "Gone in 60 seconds"? $5 per car, 20 cars, $100. Would you like a calculator?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by P Nut &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I believe DC2's are all GSR's. DC4's are GS/LS/RS's.

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DC2's are not all GSR's...

 

i think BlackAckeR just felt bad letting a stolen ITR go unnoticed and nothing done about it. so he was wondering if it was a rebadged RS (in which case i doubt he cares), or if it was stolen (in which case he would further stress himself out as to what to do )

 

i see why he would be concerned, anytime i see a car with a 5 lug, "type r suspension" and stuff that only came on an R i always think i hope the parts arent stolen and if they are i hope they get whats comming to them..

 

vin or check under the rear of the car. simple.

 

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Really? Which other models are DC2's?

 

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DC2's are 2 door 94-01 Integras
DC4's are 4 door 94-01 Integras.

 

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DC2's are 2 door 94-01 Integras
DC4's are 4 door 94-01 Integras.
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Not quite. 4 doors are DB8's. DC4's are LS's, and I thought GS's, RS's.

 

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Oops, i suck at life. I can say that GS-R's are not the only DC2's for sure though. ITR's are DC231's.