I am planning to fully build my head with either Skunk2 parts with the spec 3s or should i go TODA with the vtec killers? any advice?

 

bump!

 

Is this a racecar?

No offense, but you don't sound to knowledgable about what you are 'planning.' My advise is that you read up and research a little more before you go out and buy anything.

 

its for semi street and semi track, im planning to built the head with either toda or skunk2, just looking for advices

 

stage 3s or vtec killers are track cams... they would be terrible for the street

 

yea... but thats i use to car to do quarter miles too.. any suggestions?

 

You can't just slap on cams like the VTEC killers, I hope you know that.

 

i'd go with some pro 1's..you can use your stock valve train and they make good power....but if your building the head Jun 3's make such great power...GL findin them tho...

problem is...your ITR doesn't have crazy compression...soo....some huge *** cam would actually hurt you more then help you...do some reasearch...i've done this time and time again....but if i did it my way...

Jun3's all the way...i see people with 200whp stock bottoms all day....

 

i am a big fan of toda spec b's. excellent driveability, with tons of midrange. i have been running them in my itr swap since 2000.

 

if i use skunk2 stage 3, imma build my head with all skunk2 parts. if i use the toda killers, i will build my head with toda parts. i know you cant just use the cams, you have to use the valves and stuff too.

 

Umm, yeah. VTEC-killers on a street-driven car. Are you retarded? Use something that retains the VTEC.

 

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Not just head work buddy. If you get such agressive cams, you are going to end up building a whole engine. Those cams dont like stock compression, and they like to rev higher than stock. I suggest you look more into this, or stop e-building.

 

my b20 block is already build with wiseco pistons and rods. bored also, i already know i need to build the block, im just asking for advice which one i should use and what compression is good for it

 

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The Vtec doesn't go away. The cams run in constant vtec, it doesn't literally kill the vtec. It is pointless on a street driven car unless you are constantly running your car over 5500 rpms at all times, which I doubt. . .then again, maybe not.

 

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Are you brain dead? There is only one cam lobe. The VTEC-killer valvetrain eliminates VTEC. WTF are you talking about?

 

The point that I was trying to make is that the vtec killer cams operate at a performance level (similar to the same lift blah blah blah) that a vtec motor running in vtec. Damn, that's really confusing to read, but I think you get the point.
We are sharing the same knowledge, I think, but explaining it two different ways

 

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The Vtec doesn't go away. The cams run in constant vtec, it doesn't literally kill the vtec. It is pointless on a street driven car unless you are constantly running your car over 5500 rpms at all times, which I doubt. . .then again, maybe not. </TD></TR></TABLE>

God I hate when ricers talk about VTEC killer cams. VTEC killers are are primary's only. NO VTEC LOBE

it's called a VTEC killer because it eliminated VTEC


Also this isn't 1998, there are much better options out there than VTEC killer cams.

 

Yeah, I'm such a "ricer"! So ******* tired of that word and it being thrown around whenever some 1337 Honda God tries to boast about his wealth of knowledge that Honda-tech has given him.
I know how vtec killer cams work, I just figured that I was not going to get too specific where the OP would ask even dumber questions regarding his want of a new cam. Thanks for the label, Capt. Obvious!

 

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come again???? pro1's on stock valvetrain?

 

itr engine is in my civic so i guess its a civic engine now

 

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You guessed wrong. It's still an ITR engine, it doesn't magically transfrom into a DOHC 1.8 D16 when you put it in your civic.

 

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i dont think he knows what hes talking about. maybe hes trying to sound cool??

 

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I think what he is trying to say is that the lobe that is on the cam is like the vtec lobe and there is not a seperate lobe for low to mid range just one for wide open, so it is like being in vtec all the time

 

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driveability of vtec killers sucks, but you do get a cool lopey idle

 

they both perform pretty damn good . infact you can look at their spec sheets online and their output is almost identical.