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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 02:46 PM
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Default turbo LS coupe not starting

here's an overview of what happend and what i did..

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98 civic coupe w/
b18b
tial 38mm wastegate 9psi spring
t3/t4
blox manifold
cartech fmu 12:1 ( shitty i know but kit came with odb1 injectors and i dont have hondata or uberdata yes)
missing link
golden eagle vaccum manifold box

the car ran fine for 1day pulled hard and everything, but i took it out one last time for a testdrive with my cousin and when i returned home i let it idel to roll into my driveway and thats when it died..

oil was all over the battery area the fuse box but not alot it was just thin layerd the pcv valve was broke i broke it on accident but it poped back together so i just left it like that.. but it was broken in half when i poped that hood that time.
the car didn't want to start. i checked fuses, spark,fuel, and timing.. so then i took the head off thinking the pistons would have some big holes in them but they where fine and so was the head.. then i took the head apart to find everything in working order.. BUT i did find out that my ls block has b16 si pistons in it.. the block and sleevs looked perfect aswell. although i think that it would have been pretty high compression i think for a turbo motor

so i put a new headgasket on rechecked the whole wiring harness redid timing but still no starting it.. also a mist of oil comes out of the breather hole where all the oil shot out of it before.. but its just a mist of it im gonna do a compression test tonite.. the only thing else i can think of is the rings broke or melted or somthing ?
anyone have an input this was my dailey and the turbo was supposed to be a 1 nite install but this is killin me
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 02:53 PM
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fix the pcv valve
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 02:58 PM
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i did i bought new headgasket and pcv valve
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 02:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b_serious &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i did i bought new headgasket and pcv valve</TD></TR></TABLE>

same problem still? after you changed those out?
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 03:18 PM
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yep same problem still.. i tried starting it with stock fuel set up and charge pipe off of the T/B still nothing
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 03:25 PM
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Sounds like some blow bly.. but I don't know why it wouldn't start after fixing the pcv valve...

Try forced induction forums.
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 05:37 PM
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Hmmm did you take the oil pan off check for metal sounds like you blew it up
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 06:57 PM
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check ur o ring on the breather box underneath the intake manifold, mine went out and oil was spraying out of there.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 09:45 AM
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breather box? where's that at? this is a b18b ls motor
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 05:16 PM
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since your motor was apart.. you should have taken your bottom end apart.. im pretty sure that you have no compression because you blew a piston or 2, if you run your car hard w/o forged pistons you'll end up melting u're stock ones.. take your head off, take your oil pan off, and take your main caps, and the bottom rod ones, and pop your pistons out through the top.. almost positive your going to find holes in the sides of your pistons along with melted rings to accompany them.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 05:36 PM
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More than likely if you were leaking oil and losing oil pressure you have fried your rings or pistons like tomu06 said so take the pistons out and go from there. While they are out you mine as well change them to a lower compression or get a thicker headgasket.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 07:24 PM
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i have some pr4 ls pistons layin around, ill put some new rings on those and put those in ill see how this goes..
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 03:42 AM
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Let us know what you other pistons look like when you take them out.
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 06:12 AM
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are you getting a spark... i dont know if anyone said it
check the distrubuter(sp) are u getting spark
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 08:06 AM
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yeah, im getting spark and fuel
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 08:40 AM
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i checked fuses, spark,fuel, and timing.. so then i took the head off thinking the pistons would have some big holes in them but they where fine and so was the head..


opening post!
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 12:33 PM
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he didnt take the pistons out though, just looked at the tops of them.. and you can't tell by the surface if they have huge holes on the sides of them.. but if there was fried piston rings/melted piston, the access usually goes to the oil pan, and you will see a few chunks of goodies in there.
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 12:40 PM
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i started taking the turbo mani and cams out ill let u know how the pistons look tonite
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 11:38 AM
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holy mother fukcing god! these pistons are fucked! lol all 4 of these ***** cracked intbetween each ring on the piston.. ill post pics today
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 03:38 PM
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same thing happend to all 4 pistons!!
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 03:52 PM
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EXACTLY what my pistons looked like in my LS turbo setup.. I was stupid and didn't get it tuned and just ran an FMU like you did... I'd put my money on not enough fuel being the problem
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 03:58 PM
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wow. Glad I want to go with chipped ECU and uberdata with Dyno tune
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