I got a 91 EF std. Im not working with quite enough money to do a b series yet, so im thinking about doing a turbo ZC swap. Its dpfi right now. IF i put a Zc in there i can use a 91 SI ecu and engine harness right? And a 91 SI tranny will bolt up to a ZC right? A Zc will bolt right up.

 

yup

 

turbo zcs are fast trust me i had one with a garrett t3 and fmic 450 cc injector safc boosting 14 psi on stock internals it held up for almost 6 months and i sold it and it still ran for a while from what i heard but i pulled pretty hard it was in a gutted 91 hatch

 

what tranny were u using?
Any tuning

 

Dohc ZC

 

i was useing a stock dx tranny and yeah it was a dohc it was a strong motor they hold up well under boost

 

You can turbo the ZC fairly cheap if you want to. I am working on 2 kits right now(1 for me and 1 for someone else). The kit I'm doing for my customer is just an IHI kit on an HF mani. ( http://s7.invisionfree.com/viz...=1195 )

The Si tranny will bolt right up.

A pic from the link. On the left is his IHI/HF setup, on the right is my 15G

 

turbo ZCs are pretty healthy,
but in the long run. it would be better to go b series for turbo.
you'll get a lot more tq.
and the turbo kits are gonna be about the same price,
thats my opinion though

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by i eat rice &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">turbo ZCs are pretty healthy,
but in the long run. it would be better to go b series for turbo.
you'll get a lot more tq.
and the turbo kits are gonna be about the same price,
thats my opinion though </TD></TR></TABLE>
I'd have to disagree to an extent.
Torque, the ZC and B16 (depending on the setup) would be very close in torque, they are close in torque stock. B16 would make more HP easily. The turbo kits are near the same price depending on what you use, but a HMT kit can be made for a ZC at a fraction of the cost. The ZC motor itself is just so much cheaper to get into than a B16. You could do a built ZC and custom turbo setup for what you would have in a stock B16swap + a full kit.

 

Do you know where i can find a ZC for a decent price. Iv got about 1200 dollars to do the complete swap. I prob wont be able to turbo it with that money but i wanna at least be able to swap a Zc in my car and put a Si trans in there in the next month.

 

you should be able to get a dohc zc and build a custom turbo kits for that price you can find jdm zc motors anywere iam sure they have a local place thats sells them close to you

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99jdem18L &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do you know where i can find a ZC for a decent price. Iv got about 1200 dollars to do the complete swap. I prob wont be able to turbo it with that money but i wanna at least be able to swap a Zc in my car and put a Si trans in there in the next month.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You can do a ZC swap with $1200 and have quite a bit of change left.

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1425100

 

Hmotorsonline.com is the best place to get a motor, you'll get a good motor for that price,
and when i said B series i meant more along the lines of LS, or b20, GSR or something 1.8 or 2.0
i know people who have turboed ZC's and while they spank my ***,
they cant touch turboed b20's and Ls
and a LS or B20 doesnt really cost that much more when you think about how much more HP and TQ you'll have after you boost it

 

ok going into a ef it will cost so much more for a ls or any b series you have to get axles linkages motor mounts and a tranny then you have to usually jump it from obd0 to obd1 for it to acually run right a zc bolts tight into the car bolts on the stock dx or what ever tranny he has well anyways ...... and dont under estimate the turbo zc i beat on a turbo gsr in a eg with my turbo zc !!!! acually the ls has 2 hp more then a zc thats the ba18a1 the b18b1 has 12 more hp not that big of a deal and the b20 has lots of tourque yeah but it has thin cylinder walls and i have hurd that it dont like to hold any types of boost not to mention the zc motor and a d series tranny are about 100 lbs+ lighter then a b series iam not hateing on b series i have a gsr in my crx but in my opinion dohc zc is the way to go and its cheap

 

How much do you expect to spend on a turbo. I think that I saw dohc zc's on hmotors for 575. My buddy bought a greddy turbo for 2100 new. Unless you already have the stuff to do this it would prob. be cheaper to do the swap that you want from the start.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ef hatchie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> My buddy bought a greddy turbo for 2100 new. Unless you already have the stuff to do this it would prob. be cheaper to do the swap that you want from the start.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your buddy got raped.

 

i agree with you ZC's are cheaper and easier.
but i b series in the long run is still the way to go.

you get what you pay for,
and while a ZC is healthy like i said
a turbod LS Vtec will spank a zc. no matter how built it is,
cause its 1.6 you can only get so much out of a 1.6 anything
and that goes for b16s to

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by i eat rice &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i agree with you ZC's are cheaper and easier.
but i b series in the long run is still the way to go.

you get what you pay for,
and while a ZC is healthy like i said
a turbod LS Vtec will spank a zc. no matter how built it is,
cause its 1.6 you can only get so much out of a 1.6 anything
and that goes for b16s to
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you sir are very misinformed and mislead
I love the part in bold...it's so far from correct.
Heres a built and boosted ZC dyno...let it marinate

 

you can get a skateboard to beat a turbo ls/vtec its all in how much money you wanna throw into it

 

Speed takes money.

How fast do you wanna go?

 

any info on the build of this zc motor that put out this dyno slip? impressive. what turbo and how much boost?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by si0385. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can get a skateboard to beat a turbo ls/vtec its all in how much money you wanna throw into it</TD></TR></TABLE>
lol, true. I just had to address...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by i eat rice &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a turbod LS Vtec will spank a zc. no matter how built it is,
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You can't limit a persons build potential, you don't know what that particular person has in mind, or in his wallet.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mintef &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">any info on the build of this zc motor that put out this dyno slip? impressive. what turbo and how much boost? </TD></TR></TABLE>
I do, I'll post it up shortly.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mintef &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">any info on the build of this zc motor that put out this dyno slip? impressive. what turbo and how much boost? </TD></TR></TABLE>

setup:

3rd gen dohc ZC (obd1)
Golden Eagle sleeved block
75mm std bore 9:1 Wiseco pistons
Crower billet rods
hks metal headgasket
arp headbolts
JG Pro-series race cyl head
JG 1001 race cams
JG cam gears
60trim t3/t4 .63ar stage 3 turbo
custom intake and exhaust manifolds
64mm bored GSR throttle body
MSD digital 6plus ignition and coil
ngk plugs and wires
880cc injectors
Neptune ECU
3bar MSD map sensor
precision FMIC
liam821 piping and downpipe
hydro ZC tranny with Cusco LSD
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1106644

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99jdem18L &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I got a 91 EF std. Im not working with quite enough money to do a b series yet, so im thinking about doing a turbo ZC swap. Its dpfi right now. IF i put a Zc in there i can use a 91 SI ecu and engine harness right? And a 91 SI tranny will bolt up to a ZC right? A Zc will bolt right up.</TD></TR></TABLE>
DON'T use the Si engine harness, it won't fit the plugs on the chassis harness. You need to modify your stock harness for the MPFI. Here ie a link with the info;

http://crf50.no-ip.com/fourthgenhatch/mpfi.html