tuning help / advise..
well here in a short few week's i'll be installing my 97JDM ITR cams, along with itr springs, single stage intake mani, adjustable cam gears... im confused on how i should tune it. would it be worth my time to pay $300 for hondata, when the nearest hondata tuner to me is 2+ hours away, and charges approx. $300 to tune it. i wouldnt want to drive the car that far untuned. or should i get a chipped ecu? im not to sure how the chipped ecu's work. by the way this is going into a 95 GSR B18C1. do the makers / programmers of the chip kenji, phearable just send you one thats already been made. or do they look into your actual set up. but once its made i can never change anything on it correct?
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but i did search, and couldnt quite find what i was interested in..
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sorry i moved this to the Tech/Msc forum also, but feel free to comment here. my fault.
Modified by integra95gsr at 11:26 PM 4/6/2006
please dont answer with "search" if you do, then please provide me with a link.
but i did search, and couldnt quite find what i was interested in..
EDIT~
sorry i moved this to the Tech/Msc forum also, but feel free to comment here. my fault.
Modified by integra95gsr at 11:26 PM 4/6/2006
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...Just kidding. I have, and prefer/love my Hondata S200 system. The options for tuning are pretty good with this setup, and the base-map that is included with the Hondata systems will get you to the tuning shop without a hitch. Just keep your foot out of it, and have a good tuner work on your setup.
...Just kidding. I have, and prefer/love my Hondata S200 system. The options for tuning are pretty good with this setup, and the base-map that is included with the Hondata systems will get you to the tuning shop without a hitch. Just keep your foot out of it, and have a good tuner work on your setup.
couldnt you get a itr ecu? Either jdm or usdm. They have single stage intakes and are tuned for the higher compression. Your injectors in your gsr are the same i believe, i know the obd2 gsr injectors are the same as itr.
What's the difference between 1997 USDM and JDM ITR cams?
The cams are slightly different then the GSR cams. The profiles are not that far apart. When you install the cam gears just keep them at zero. There is no need to fool with them yet. I'm quite sure that you can use your current ECU to get you to the tuner. In essence the only real change that your making to the current dynamics of the motor is a slightly larger cam which shouldn't make any serious issues.
If anything you can mess around with your throttle position screw and your idle screw if your having trouble getting it started on a stock ECU.
Don't forget to time your engine when you fire it up, since you will be taking off the distributor. Best thing to do is scribe the bracket on the distributor to the bracket on the head, this way when you put the distributor back on you can line up the lines and be close to where your timing needs to be.
The pre programmed chips are nothing special. Those things are out dated. You would get a set chip, but once you go to tune your car, the A/F ratios and tables will need to be modified anyways. Those chips are essentially designed for specific engines that are left completely stock internally.
Put your parts in, make sure to tripple check everything, keep your stock ecu in there and try to fire it up. If you have tried adjusting everything on your stock ecu, then use the hondata. Like the other guy said, make sure you drive like an old lady to the tuner.
The cams are slightly different then the GSR cams. The profiles are not that far apart. When you install the cam gears just keep them at zero. There is no need to fool with them yet. I'm quite sure that you can use your current ECU to get you to the tuner. In essence the only real change that your making to the current dynamics of the motor is a slightly larger cam which shouldn't make any serious issues.
If anything you can mess around with your throttle position screw and your idle screw if your having trouble getting it started on a stock ECU.
Don't forget to time your engine when you fire it up, since you will be taking off the distributor. Best thing to do is scribe the bracket on the distributor to the bracket on the head, this way when you put the distributor back on you can line up the lines and be close to where your timing needs to be.
The pre programmed chips are nothing special. Those things are out dated. You would get a set chip, but once you go to tune your car, the A/F ratios and tables will need to be modified anyways. Those chips are essentially designed for specific engines that are left completely stock internally.
Put your parts in, make sure to tripple check everything, keep your stock ecu in there and try to fire it up. If you have tried adjusting everything on your stock ecu, then use the hondata. Like the other guy said, make sure you drive like an old lady to the tuner.
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so i got the chance to call my local speed shop (2 hours away) to see about getting the hondata setup and tuned. well turns out, it would cost me $250 for the hondata + $400 for a tunning package (street tune, dyno tune etc..) = $650 already. but they would need the car for 2 days, due to cooling down processes and such, so i would need a hotel room. this all doesnt not seem worth it to me. for just installing some cam's. so im going to have to steer away from hondata for now. what other options are there at this point. im in serious need of some ideas!?
check the harness out on inlinefour.com, i think its called "field harness" or something like that. Its made to mate factory ecu to factory harness, so i dont think it will set cel.
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