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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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Ok so i recently just fixed my bleeder screw and put the the caliper back on. I tried bleeding my brakes but for some reason the pedal is still soft, i want to get it back to the stock feeling. The process i did was. Start from the passenger rear, I had my friend pump the brakes for about 30 times half way. Then i told him to hold it at half way point. I then opened the valve I did this til no bubbles were in the fluid coming out. I also then did it to all calipers. But once we were done we took it for a test run the brakes were still soft. Should i be having my friend put the pedal to the ground? Someone told me that where ever you pump your brakes to thats when the braking point is. IS that true? i searched and came up with some threads about gravity bleeeding. Can someone plz help me with like a Step by step exactly how to bleed brakes? im getting really frustrated with this process
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 08:08 PM
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Default Re: Need help with bleeding brakes (vietxdragon)

When I did mine, I did all the way down when pressing the pedal....
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 08:10 PM
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when u drive it is the brake pedal like stock feeling? when you bleed your brakes applying the brakes all the way to the ground?
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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just did mine on my 94 accord, they turned out great. i did the old pump 5 times and hold, when your partner cracks the bleeder, foot to the floor, carefully! this was on a brand new master cylinder mind you. i think the fear is that if you have an older master cylinder the insides may be rusting and going full stroke may run a rusty, pitted shaft through your seal causing a tear and potential leak. also keep in mind bleed order. my dad has pounded in my head rear right, rear left, front right, front left. not the case on a 94 accord. the bleed order is passenger rear, driver front, driver rear, passenger front. check your manual to see what yours is, and don't assume like i did. this process does take a little bit of touch too. i used a clear tube on the bleeder with the other end submerged in brake fluid to watch for bubbles and prevent new ones from coming back in. i did it enough times to flush all of the black fluid out and new fluid in. remember to check the resevior, keep it filled. or a power bleeder is nice too. i found it easier to do having my wife on the pedal and me at the bleeder. took 20 mins. takes longer trying to hook up the power bleeder. good luck.
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 02:49 PM
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http://www.ozaccord.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35

hope this helps..
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 03:13 PM
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Guy #1 has to pump the brakes a few times then hold it down. Guy #2 opens the bleed screw (pedal sinks to the floor, and fluid comes squirting out) Guy #1 has to hold the brake pedal down, until Guy #2 re-tightens the bleed screw. If the brake pedal is released before the bleed screw is tightened, air will get sucked into the brake lines. repeat a few times for each wheel, or until all the air is out. Hope this helps. good luck.
PS: it helps if you can use a closed end wrench positioned to where it works like a valve handle (one motion for closing and one motion for opening the bleed screw) without having to re-position the wrench every time.

A vacuum pump works great, and that way you don't have to push the master cylinder all the way in, risking damage to the seal.
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 04:51 PM
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Show your dad this link and then jump up and down telling him a Honda is not a Chevy, I'm sure Honda would not have this in the technician training if it wasn't the way to do it.
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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Default Re: Need help with bleeding brakes (vietxdragon)

When you change pads but do not resurface rotors, there can be an uneven surface for the pad to meet. This causes a spongey feeling, as the brake pad is flexing trying to meet the rotor surface.
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