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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 11:27 PM
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Default DIY head work - removing casting imperfections q.

So basically I want to clean up the casting imperfections in the head, just want to make sure this stuff is ok to remove before I start! I had a mild p&p done last week, figured he'd do this stuff but ah wellz, shouldn't have said mild! here's the imperfections I'm talking about:


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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 12:30 AM
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Honestly, I don't see how that would help in any way. Does anything flow past those points besides oil? Correct me if I am missing somthing.
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 12:50 AM
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No that should have no affect on engine Flow. Take pics of the ports. Lets check those out
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 10:28 AM
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I'm not looking to improve performance really by cleaning up those imperfections, just to clean up and improve oil flow within the head .. unless this will accomplish nothing, in that case I'm ready to assemble! hehe.

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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 11:35 AM
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 12:28 PM
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anyone support their reply?
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 12:48 PM
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cleaning that part is worthless
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 02:07 PM
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Yep. Almost every B head ive seen has that one on the left. It will do nothing if you smooth it out. If you want to get rid of something, get rid of the casting marks on the sides of your intake/exhaust ports... you know what...wait... nevermind.... dont.
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 06:30 PM
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I've actually seen a couple of heads where some of that casting is about to flake off. I usually try to remove it if the head is out and being cleaned anyways. Definitely won't hurt anything.
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 11:05 PM
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That's more of the response I thought I'd see .. if it prevents anything or improves why not? I have the head out and it won't hurt it .
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 11:26 PM
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I say do it....

I did it the quick and dirty way which was using a small flat head screwdriver and just gently tapping on some of the casting imperfections and they came off really clean.

I figure after who knows how much mileage - the imperfections going through numerous heat cycles, it's better to be safe than sorry.

Endyn does it with their builds.... but that's another can of worms....
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 11:44 PM
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hehe I'm no Larry, but I figure I can dremel out that stuff to prevent any bits getting into the motor .. head is completely bare so I can blow/clean off any shavings etc. I'll post my work up next week after I get the head back here.
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 11:46 AM
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like said above, it can be beneficial to remove the flakey pieces of metal along the casting seams or sharp corners. sometimes, those little pieces can break off and get in your oil. Some head porters will give the head a once over and grind off those edges for you (usually called "deburring").
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 05:37 PM
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yea i was reading about how endyn would usually go over the head and take out any casting flaws that can be safely taken out. hey it wont hurt. but at least you get some peace of mind
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 04:08 PM
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Before:


After:


Before:


After:


It's nothing significant I know but there were some areas where the pieces were not solid, so it's not a bad idea to do this imo, if you're spending the time and money to build the motor from scratch. Will it make a difference? Probably not, but it is better than before.
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 04:17 PM
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Is it? Exactly what was improved/what will benefit from this?
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 06:58 PM
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i think if you have the time and the ability, go ahead and do it, a buddy had got a dart block and had to do this to pretty much every hole
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 08:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LsVtec92Hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is it? Exactly what was improved/what will benefit from this?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Perhaps marginal fluid flow...but more importantly if those pieces break off.... they're likely to cause "issues" down the road.

As it was mentioned prior, it's done more for the peace of mind for the builder who sees these imperfections as debris that could potentially break off ruining a build.

Will it give you more power? No....

Have these pieces been proven to break off causing motors to go boom? No....(rather, none that I am aware of anyway)

Is there a chance they could break off and cause damage? "Anything can happen....."
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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It's really to each his own here guys, I saw something I didn't like, so I removed it, end of story. I do expect roughly .01 whp though.
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