toda killer camshafts or buddy club spec v camshafts for itr, which is one should i go for?

 

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So we're asuming your engine is built for such an aggressive cam correct?

 

yes, i have a 12.6 compression ratio and was wondering which cams would be good

 

I would go with the Toda Vtec Killers

 

price difference is huge, buddy club v cams are $760 msrp and toda is $1800 but buddy club produces more power with intake 12.8 lift and exhaust 11.8 lift, while toda is 12.0 and 11.5, its a hard decision

 

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That is what I was getting at.

Are you dead set on Buddy Club and Toda? If you are going with buddy club, search under the screen name 92typer in the all motor forum. Marshal did a nice write up on the spec IV's. That should give you some kind of indication of what they will do on a built ITR motor.

If I can recall, there was a problem with too much duration which resulted in a loss of compression.

 

thx

 

I've been testing the BC5's for the past month or so and they are too big for your 12.6:1. I would say ideal compression ratio would be somewhere around 13.2-13.6:1 on pump 92.

The VTEC Killers are not a wise cam choice for a non-race motor. Mainly because there are cams that cost 1/4 the price that make more power. The benefit of the VTEC killers is the ellimination of lost motion weight, which really only matters for an endurance motor.

I would recommend Skunk2 Pro2, Rocket M24X, TODA C2, or BC4/JUN3.

I will be testing out some Pro2's here in a couple weeks, keep an eye out and you will see the comparison of the BC5's and Pro2's on my motor.

 

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Do you speak from experience?

 

Im not really a fan of most the Toda cams, allways seemed more hype than anything. Im not to sure on the brand new B2's and C2's though

 

.....well I AM a fan of the toda cams. I've owned three different sets of their cams, and actually have spec A's in my turbo car and spec C's in my allmotor one.

They were the first dohc vtec cam to actually have some big primaries for that nice midrange, and this was five years ago when a lot of us started putting their cams in and getting that mad jdm powah!

So now even skunk and jun have followed suit with their pro series and stage 4's respectively, in order to make lots of low end power and smooth vtec engagement.....


To the original poster:

vtec killers are a vastly different cam than the bc 5's.

I'd go with whichever your engine builder/ tuner recommends...

the killers are for high rpm usage, on circuits where you don't need the low end. the bc 5's still have non-vtec lobes, so those would probably be better for a street driven vehicle (more low end).

This decision really should be based on your intended usage, and I don't understand why you'd limit yourself to only these specific camshaft sets.....

Furthermore, the vtec killers can be had in at least three different profiles for the intake and exhaust camshaft - for a total of 9 different combinations of i/e lobe profile..... It sounds like someone needs to do some research...