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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 10:21 PM
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I've used the search tool and read the threads which give all sorts of horror stories regarding boosting high CR engines, but I am still interested in boosting or supercharging an ITR.

Can those of you with FI setups on an ITR give me some feedback or advice if I choose to go down this road.

If I choose to stay with NA, am I right to say headers, full exhaust, cam gears, intake, upgraded fuel system, and tuning would be good for 200 wheel horsepower?

My goal is a streetable car to race AutoX. I do not want to be in the stock class, I have had experience in ESP class and did rather well. And yes, I just read the other post regarding some kid and AutoXing.

Thanks for your input.
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 10:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dr Pylon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've used the search tool and read the threads which give all sorts of horror stories regarding boosting high CR engines, but I am still interested in boosting or supercharging an ITR.

Can those of you with FI setups on an ITR give me some feedback or advice if I choose to go down this road.

If I choose to stay with NA, am I right to say headers, full exhaust, cam gears, intake, upgraded fuel system, and tuning would be good for 200 wheel horsepower?

My goal is a streetable car to race AutoX. I do not want to be in the stock class, I have had experience in ESP class and did rather well. And yes, I just read the other post regarding some kid and AutoXing.

Thanks for your input.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Did you look in the FAQ?
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 10:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nholmes &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Did you look in the FAQ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
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go read this first

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1024174

i dont have a boosted itr myself but i can tell you that alot of people was successful with low boost like 7 psi or so. but if you want more powre you must build your bottom end with low compression pistons and blah blah.

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Old Mar 24, 2006 | 03:51 AM
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.....many of us have had good success with boosted itr's and stock motors up to about ~12psi and/ or 300+whp.

It's enough to give you more power than you know what to do with on the street, and basically nearly useless for autox. (traction issues)

It is a hell of a lot of fun though!

If you do a search for the following users, you should turn up enough information on boosting an itr: rboosted717, dr pooface, chris F, myself, and pete (damn pete, what did you change your sn to?)

For autox, I would duplicate rmcdaniels setup:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1518026




Modified by Black R at 11:13 AM 3/27/2006
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Old Mar 24, 2006 | 04:34 AM
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JRSC @5lbs... makes me happy. Seems to get the car moving quicker than stock.
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Old Mar 24, 2006 | 11:08 AM
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****, I just finally got around to putting in my JRSC @ 7 PSI you can read about it by clicking the link at the bottom of my signature.

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Old Mar 24, 2006 | 11:19 AM
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NA all the way my friend
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Old Mar 24, 2006 | 11:26 AM
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boosted R's are the best..especially when they are turbo..im not a big fan of superchargers but like the squil they make..you can run safely like 7psi on a completly stock motor..make sure you get a sandwich plate by golden eagle or something..
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Old Mar 24, 2006 | 11:26 AM
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and a good tune with like uber-data or chrome..or......nept00n
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Old Mar 24, 2006 | 11:53 AM
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why do you newbies always think sooooo big. Get used the way the car is and if you've already done that, just do some mild stuff for now.

But as it was said NO YOU DON'T HAVE TO LOWER COMPRESSION TO BOOST MORE. Tuning is key. If 2 cars are side by side everthing the same and they are both turboed and one has higher compression ratio...who wins?

Again not too sure on your level of expertise, but a supercharger is a much safe way too boost (in general) less maintenance. Both have the pros and cons, but if you want to autocross the SC seems to be the better way to go. (I may just have started a big debate)

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Old Mar 24, 2006 | 11:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dr Pylon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If I choose to stay with NA, am I right to say headers, full exhaust, cam gears, intake, upgraded fuel system, and tuning would be good for 200 wheel horsepower?
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hahahahha no way. Look into building the head, some stage 2 or 3 cams and an upgraded vavletrain (valve springs and retainers). With the above mentioned upgrades you will have a great car for now...
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Old Mar 24, 2006 | 12:27 PM
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my car will be done here in the next month..im running a 2mm headgasket, my compression should be around 9.6:1, should be good to do 1bar/14psi and should be a little safer
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Old Mar 24, 2006 | 02:24 PM
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Boosted R's suck. They are slow and prone to blowing up. NA FOR LIFE YO!!11!!one!!
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Old Mar 24, 2006 | 02:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EEK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my car will be done here in the next month..im running a 2mm headgasket, my compression should be around 9.6:1, should be good to do 1bar/14psi and should be a little safer</TD></TR></TABLE>

Running a thicker head gasket affects the quench charicteristics of the head/piston, be careful.

ps boosted R's SUCK
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Old Mar 24, 2006 | 02:27 PM
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BOOSTED R"S SUCK

TRIPLE POST BOOOOOOOOYAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
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Old Mar 24, 2006 | 02:36 PM
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Dr Poo, tell us how you really feel?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by neo_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You will not get to your goal without touching the bottom end.


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I have to disagree neo, I think there are a few dyno sheets floating around of people "in the ballpark" of 200whp with a stock bottom end. thin gasket, adv timing, nice header, exhaust, cams, tuning... not gonna be easy but I think it can be done with a competent tuner and solid setup.

NA is best y0!
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Old Mar 24, 2006 | 03:06 PM
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boost FTW!
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Old Mar 24, 2006 | 05:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dr Pooface &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BOOSTED R"S SUCK</TD></TR></TABLE>

You're ******' hilarious D

Black R: Pete changed his name to PM Performance . I know, I'm a ******' stalker
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Old Mar 24, 2006 | 06:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RTW DC2R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have to disagree neo, I think there are a few dyno sheets floating around of people "in the ballpark" of 200whp with a stock bottom end. thin gasket, adv timing, nice header, exhaust, cams, tuning... not gonna be easy but I think it can be done with a competent tuner and solid setup.

NA is best y0! </TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree. Not to start a whole new debate or anything but I hit 187whp with stock internals, all the bolts ons incl. a ****-*** header and Hondata. Since installing the Toda piece I'm sure I can hit 190 or above. There are a couple threads of peeps hitting 200whp w/ stock internals and AEM EMS so it is possible.

NA 4 lyphe
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Old Mar 24, 2006 | 06:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SUPREME! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">NA all the way my friend </TD></TR></TABLE>

hah

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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 05:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dr Pooface &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Boosted R's suck. They are slow and prone to blowing up. NA FOR LIFE YO!!11!!one!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
^I'm with stupid

Boosted R's are money pits. I've put WAY over $10,000 into my car in the last couple of years, and it's value now is probably lower than when it was bone stock.
(Where did the money go? Turbo setup with radiator, oil cooler, intercooler, Hondata, tuning install, $7500 or so. Built motor, $3000? New turbo when I cooked the first one's bearings, $1100, New manifold, downpipe and catback when I cracked the first exhaust manifold, $2000. Fire damage, $800. Plus another $120 in oil dipsticks.)

Do yourself a big favor. Find a nicely built turbo R, buy it, and sell your stock ITR. You'll come out even (or down a couple grand) but save yourself some major headaches. I would highly recommend Pooface's R as a good example of a nicely built track setup.

Oh, also search for posts by AustrianR who runs a wicked boosted R on tracks in Europe. Gotta pay to play, it's a lot of fun, but the downtime is obnoxious.

-Chris
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 06:01 AM
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wouldnt what you said go with boosted honda's in general
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 06:54 AM
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LOL another boosted vs NA debate.

Will it ever end?

Back to the original poster. Is you r question answered?
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 07:20 AM
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Default Re: Boosted ITR (Dr Pylon)

more neat threads on the subject(s):

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1562530

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1293497
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 08:15 AM
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Boosted Honda's
Na they are cool and fun. But get old after a while
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