i just installed the skunk2 manifold my car has a very bad hesitation from 1000-3000 rpms..it bucks and goes crazy when shifting from first to second nice and slow it is the worse. i took the car to auto zone to check to see what the cel is i thought it would be #12 for the egr valve but its not.
on the piece of paper he gave me it says: manf cntrl veh. spd. ,idle speed controll and auxiliary inputs

the auxilairies are gone so i think thats all set. what is the idle speed controll? this is the most biggest job i ever did to my car so its very possible theres an error

my car is a 96 vtec modal with just intake and the manifold. i did not post it int he skunk2 thread because i thought more people would see it if i made my own.
any info would be nice thank you-jeff

 

Well, either way, that was a dumb thing to do.

Your car is going to feel slow as **** once you have it fixed. An intake and a skunk2 manifold? .......poor decision.

 

I think your having the bottlenose effect or is is vice versa, either way to much air in your motor and not enough exhaust getting out of the motor.

 

any chance you can get somewhat detailed pics of your manifold chamber so we can see how your vaccuum lines were reconnected?

also i think you said there was a CEL? if you have had it scanned what is the 4 digit code(s)?

and yeah performance manifold should have been a little further down your list.

 

You threw this manifold on for what reason ?

No secondaries on a stock H22 = SLOW.

This manifold isnt designed for stock motors. It was designed for motors with big cams and alot of air flow. You have effectively made your car a slow POS. Good job

Next you need a chipped ECU so you can rev it out to 9K.

 

I was thinking of getting an intake manifold. I just have intake & exhaust. Would that be a good move? and if so, who makes a good decently priced one?

 

you know what i forgot about your loss of the IAB (intake air bypass) valves. 98 is prob right, the IAB's are there to help your tourque in the low end by preventing too much airflow. at 4900 rpm they open to allow the extra air needed at higher rpms

 

If you want one that is good for a basically stock motor, i would suggest the Euro R IM.

 

the engine codes are probably related to teh idle air control valve.

 

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Did you even read the responses above?

 

no there are no codes anywhere on the print out i got. i can take pics tomarrow when its light out. ihave a p72 that is going to be chiped and converted to obd1. the person that is chiping it, is makeing me a full exhuast also so you think that will help elimanate the bucking in very low rpms.
would the no secondaries make the car buck in the low rpms?anything would be good

 

bump for my boy help the kid out

 

Did you check to see if the manifold was leaking from anywhere?

 

put the stock manifold back on. Sell the skunk2. A stock motor will run like **** even if the skunk 2 is hooked up right. Do your research.

 

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Did you even read the responses above?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Did you read them? They were talkin about the skunk 2 mianfold, not all manifolds.

 

ALL AFTERMARKET INTAKE MANIFOLDS ON A STOCK MOTOR ARE A WASTE OF MONEY UNLESS ITS AN OEM HONDA MANIFOLD.

You may be able to pick up a few ponies with the Euro R, MAY.

All other aftermarket manifolds that are out are meant for turbo/nitrous applications or for fully built race motors.

To the OP: Chipping a P72 on a stock motor with intake and a skunk2 manifold is just asking for trouble. Chipping in general is just idiotic unless you are chipping for Hondata or something similar. I await you post saying " Help, I reved my motor to 9K with my sweet new ECU chip and now my car runs like total and complete ***" Or " There is a gigantic hole in the front of my motor, what happened ?! "

All of you people need to research your built and dig through the information on this site. Dont be so quick to blow money or "chip" your ECU. This is not a good way to tune your motor. Get a real tune-able system such as;

Full Stand Alone Units eg: AEM EMS, HKS DEFCON, im sure there are others

Tune-able Piggy back style using stock honda ECU's; Chrome, Hondata, Uberdata

You need to spend time on a dyno with someone who knows what they are doing, or someone with a wideband to get at the very minimum, a street tune.

Using some random fuel/ignition map, that someone created for some other h22 back when dinosaurs roamed the earth, and call it a MUGEN program, its the most ******* retarted thing you could do.

Use your brain.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98TypeSH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ALL AFTERMARKET INTAKE MANIFOLDS ON A STOCK MOTOR ARE A WASTE OF MONEY UNLESS ITS AN OEM HONDA MANIFOLD.

You may be able to pick up a few ponies with the Euro R, MAY.

All other aftermarket manifolds that are out are meant for turbo/nitrous applications or for fully built race motors.

To the OP: Chipping a P72 on a stock motor with intake and a skunk2 manifold is just asking for trouble. Chipping in general is just idiotic unless you are chipping for Hondata or something similar. I await you post saying " Help, I reved my motor to 9K with my sweet new ECU chip and now my car runs like total and complete ***" Or " There is a gigantic hole in the front of my motor, what happened ?! "

All of you people need to research your built and dig through the information on this site. Dont be so quick to blow money or "chip" your ECU. This is not a good way to tune your motor. Get a real tune-able system such as;

Full Stand Alone Units eg: AEM EMS, HKS DEFCON, im sure there are others

Tune-able Piggy back style using stock honda ECU's; Chrome, Hondata, Uberdata

You need to spend time on a dyno with someone who knows what they are doing, or someone with a wideband to get at the very minimum, a street tune.

Using some random fuel/ignition map, that someone created for some other h22 back when dinosaurs roamed the earth, and call it a MUGEN program, its the most ******* retarted thing you could do.

Use your brain.</TD></TR></TABLE>

agreed.....cept about the Euro R

The skunk2 manifold isnt even designed for NA applications. If it was, it would have made MUCH more power than an OEM euro R manifold used on Scott's motor. But no, the gains were only up top and the Euro R beat it where the power counts.

I've never understood why people dont listen to others when we say not to buy that piece of ****, then buy it....and expect their car to be special or something. I had one...sold it 3 months later. Probably one of the worst buys i have ever done besides a DC sports header.

 

ha. I'm going to have to call on that DC header POS Worst mod ever.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98TypeSH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ALL AFTERMARKET INTAKE MANIFOLDS ON A STOCK MOTOR ARE A WASTE OF MONEY UNLESS ITS AN OEM HONDA MANIFOLD.

You may be able to pick up a few ponies with the Euro R, MAY.

All other aftermarket manifolds that are out are meant for turbo/nitrous applications or for fully built race motors.

To the OP: Chipping a P72 on a stock motor with intake and a skunk2 manifold is just asking for trouble. Chipping in general is just idiotic unless you are chipping for Hondata or something similar. I await you post saying " Help, I reved my motor to 9K with my sweet new ECU chip and now my car runs like total and complete ***" Or " There is a gigantic hole in the front of my motor, what happened ?! "

All of you people need to research your built and dig through the information on this site. Dont be so quick to blow money or "chip" your ECU. This is not a good way to tune your motor. Get a real tune-able system such as;

Full Stand Alone Units eg: AEM EMS, HKS DEFCON, im sure there are others

Tune-able Piggy back style using stock honda ECU's; Chrome, Hondata, Uberdata

You need to spend time on a dyno with someone who knows what they are doing, or someone with a wideband to get at the very minimum, a street tune.

Using some random fuel/ignition map, that someone created for some other h22 back when dinosaurs roamed the earth, and call it a MUGEN program, its the most ******* retarted thing you could do.

Use your brain.</TD></TR></TABLE>


i dont see how what you said AT ALL helps him figure out what is wrong with his car, all you seemd to do was to make fun of him, and also talk abut chipping a vehicle, when in fact no "mugen" chip was being put in all he is doing is converting it to obd1.. iunno i just sometimes wonder this website is here to to help and reading your response doesnt look like help at all...

 

Hey guys lay off the kid, its not like you never made a bad call before. I have the skunk2 mani. I have I/H/E/test pipe, and hondata, and the low end isn't that bad. If i had to do it all over again i'd get the euro r. I have some type s cams i'm gonna put in. I feel solid gains from 4.5k on. It's not a horrible manifold, just bad for a stock motor.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KyLe V &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont see how what you said AT ALL helps him figure out what is wrong with his car, all you seemd to do was to make fun of him, and also talk abut chipping a vehicle, when in fact no "mugen" chip was being put in all he is doing is converting it to obd1.. iunno i just sometimes wonder this website is here to to help and reading your response doesnt look like help at all... </TD></TR></TABLE>

everyone did tell him what's most likely wrong with the info presented to us. he's getting way too much air at low rpms. there's a reason Honda built the motor with the ITB's.

 

i have used the skunk2 manifolds off and on on various h22 powered cars and did lose low end power, but it never ran so poorly that it was anywhere near a problem.
if there are problems with the iacv that will cause a lot of problems.

 

yeah lay off him! hey, its ok man...just get your stock one put back on no big deal...everyone makes mistakes. Hey, I uesd to think that when I kiss a girl I would get them pregnate!!! haha..yeah...just get the old one back for now...

 

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everyone did tell him what's most likely wrong with the info presented to us. he's getting way too much air at low rpms. there's a reason Honda built the motor with the ITB's.</TD></TR></TABLE>


orrr he was basically maxing out his injectors, and now that he has added his exhaust and headers, and tuned on Uberdata its running fine