What adjustments to alignment does a STOCK 99 civic si have?

Front camber, toe, caster, ect...?
Rear camber, toe, caster, ect...?

Reason being I have a lot of negative camber in the rear (eibach pro kit) and I wanna know if i should do the washer trick in the rear before i bring it in or if they can adjust it.

Thanks

 

just have them set the toe to zero. you'll be good.

 

That setup doesn't give all that much camber (I'm running it right now). They should be able to set the toe to 0 without much problem.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AutoXer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That setup doesn't give all that much camber (I'm running it right now). They should be able to set the toe to 0 without much problem.

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I understand that. My friend has the same springs with much less camber. Is something bent on my car?

What adjustments to alignment does a STOCK 99 civic si have?
Front camber, toe, caster, ect...?
Rear camber, toe, caster, ect...?

 

If you're asking what type of adjustments can be done, then the only adjustment that can be done is toe. Nothing else can be adjusted on a stock civic without a camber kit. Take it to an alignment shop and get some numbers; that's the only way to tell for sure if something is bent.

Right now, you can see some camber in the rear with my Pro-Kits, so if that's what's worrying you, it's normal. You need to get an alignment anyway if you've lowered it and haven't done so already.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AutoXer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you're asking what type of adjustments can be done, then the only adjustment that can be done is toe. Nothing else can be adjusted on a stock civic without a camber kit. Take it to an alignment shop and get some numbers; that's the only way to tell for sure if something is bent.

Right now, you can see some camber in the rear with my Pro-Kits, so if that's what's worrying you, it's normal. You need to get an alignment anyway if you've lowered it and haven't done so already.

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Wow. I didn't realize all they could do was toe. Yea i havent gotten an alignment yet so thats what i am going to do and ill update with what happens.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AutoXer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you're asking what type of adjustments can be done, then the only adjustment that can be done is toe. Nothing else can be adjusted on a stock civic without a camber kit. Take it to an alignment shop and get some numbers; that's the only way to tell for sure if something is bent.

Right now, you can see some camber in the rear with my Pro-Kits, so if that's what's worrying you, it's normal. You need to get an alignment anyway if you've lowered it and haven't done so already.

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I finally got an alignment and here are the results.

BEFORE:

Front Camber Left -1.1*
Front Camber Right -1.8*
Rear Camber Left -2.6*
Rear Camber Right -2.6*
Front Toe Left -.33*
Front Toe Right +.38*
Rear Toe Left -.53*
Rear Toe Right -.60*
Total Toe -1.13*
Thrust Angle .04*

AFTER:

Front Camber Left -1.1*
Front Camber Right -1.8*
Rear Camber Left -2.0*
Rear Camber Right -2.4*
Front Toe Left 0*
Front Toe Right 0*
Rear Toe Left .07*
Rear Toe Right 0*
Total Toe .07*
Thrust Angle .03*


Most of these numbers dont make much sense to me but what do you think of them? Normal? Now the rear camber is about -2.2. Im thinking of doing the rear washer trick what do you think?

Thanks


Modified by TurboEM1 at 1:20 AM 3/30/2006

 

if your toe is zeroed out, then theres nothing to worry about tire wear wise...

a little bit of camber is good

btw, where did you take your car? i've called places all over, but they say they dont do lowered cars?

 

that neg 2 in the rear is going to hurt your turn-in responce a bit. get it dialed to about neg 1 to neg 1.5 at the max and your turn in feel should be greatly improved.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ekcivic9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if your toe is zeroed out, then theres nothing to worry about tire wear wise...

a little bit of camber is good

btw, where did you take your car? i've called places all over, but they say they dont do lowered cars? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I went to Mavis Discount Tire. They have the drive up type alignment machine. My car is not that low (eibach pro kit) but if you are really low theres no way youd make it on the machine. They had some ramps so it was easier for my car to get on. Im not sure of any other machines that do it without driving on but if there is look into that. They said theyll try to get any car on and if they cant theyll let you know.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chrisw85 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that neg 2 in the rear is going to hurt your turn-in responce a bit. get it dialed to about neg 1 to neg 1.5 at the max and your turn in feel should be greatly improved.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Will do! How many washers do you think it should take in the rear? like 1mm thick or more?


**EDIT** I made a new thread for comments. Thanks

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1565534

Modified by TurboEM1 at 1:29 AM 3/30/2006


Modified by TurboEM1 at 1:29 AM 3/30/2006

 

i read somewhere on HT that 1 washer generally equated to 1 degree positive camber. but if you go over 2 washers, you will have to get longer grade 8 bolts. (which are at home depot for 3 bucks a pop )