Welded with my new stuff for the first time today, question about helmets

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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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Ok, so after about a week of research I finally decided to go with the Hobart Handler 140 MIG welder. Although I don't have a gas cylinder yet I decided to give it a shot with the flux-core wire that came with it. It turned out pretty crappy. I'm sure it was mostly due to my lack of skill but my biggest problem that I was having was that I simply could not see what I was welding. I couldnt see the pool or even the seam I was trying to weld. A couple times I completely went off the seam. The ambient lighting in the garage is pretty good, I was underneath two 40 watt flourescent tube (shop lights) that are hanging from the ceiling. I went really cheap on the helmet, it's a $20 Clarke unit and I can't see anything. The shade number is 10. I think I'm going to try and return it cuz it's basically worthless. My question is do you guys think I can get a good helmet that I will be able to see with for around $100-$150? Possibly something auto-darkening and adjustable? any suggestions?
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 07:53 AM
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auto-darkening I use this one and i love it. I can see everything and the auto-darkening is adjustable.

http://www.harborfreight.com/c...91212
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 08:41 AM
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Wow, thats really cheap. I wonder how it will hold up. I do have a Harbor Freight kinda close to me I suppose I can always try it out and if I don't like it I can return it.
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 10:00 AM
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If you're using a 10 I'd just switch it to a 9.
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 10:32 AM
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Well, thats kinda what I thought at first. But is it possible that the shade is actually not dark enough and the reason I can't see anything else is because the arc is so bright that my pupils are closing? Kinda like shining a flashlight in your face in a dark room, probably won't be able to see anything but the flashlight.
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 01:16 PM
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Try welding with the lights off. Seriously, it is way easier to see the pool without ambient light reflecting off the back of the lense into your eyes.
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 01:27 PM
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The auto darkening helmets are great, once you get use to them there is no going back. If you are stick welding I cant imagin life without one. I have used the $40 HF one quite alot without any issues.
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 09:56 PM
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Well I picked up that $50 HF helmet. Seems to work pretty well, I can see what I'm doing. I'll try toning down the ambient light a little bit and see what happens. What I really need is some shielding gas. Welding with the flux core wire is making everything this milky brown color.
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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I use a cheap *** helmet, but I put in a gold lense. love the color of the puddle with it. try it out. like 6 bucks for a gold lense. shade 10
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 03:53 PM
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hmmm... gold lense. maybe I'll try that out. I can see better with this helmet but I still have a hard time seeing the puddle. It's gotta be something I'm doing wrong. How far away from the things are you that you're welding? 24 inches? Maybe I'm too far away.
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 06:02 AM
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Be careful with the Harbor freight helmet. I may have gotten a bad one not sure. But mine would go somewhat dark but only have of the lens would go dark so one eye was not protected. I took it back and bought a Jackson, and love it. It was expensive but you only have one set of eyes.
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 02:23 PM
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Yeah, I'm thinking about picking up one of these instead:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Hobart-Aut...wItem

It's not super expensive but it's from a respected brand.

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Old Mar 24, 2006 | 09:02 AM
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Did your HF one go bad or was it always bad? I have one and my freind has one and they suprisingly work good. I made sure to test it at the store before buying it by putting it on and looking at the lights.

As far as flux vs solid wire with gas. What a difference. With flux you have spatter everywhere and that dirt like powder covering your work. Its a real challenge to make a "pretty" weld. With solid wire its 50 times eaiser.
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