2006 Accord

Performance
Honda Accord sedan EX - V6 3.0L (244 hp) 5A + ABS

0 - 60 Time 7.80
(seconds) 1/4 Mile Time 15.88
(seconds) 1/4 Mile Speed 93.70
(mph) Braking 60 - 0
mph (ft.)


2003 Accord

Performance
Honda Accord sedan EX - V6 3.0L (240 hp) 5A + ABS

0 - 60 Time 6.84
(seconds) 1/4 Mile Time 15.34
(seconds) 1/4 Mile Speed 95.70
(mph) Braking 60 - 0 mph (ft.) 144


Honda Accord coupé - V6 3.0L (240 hp) 6M + ABS 6.12 14.74 99.10 134


More horse power, slower times. What's up with that? Taller gears in the 06 tranny?

 

the car is most likely a tad bit heavier and the HP numbers are not directly comparable since they mandated a new standard for HP ratings.

you have to compare the weights of the cars cause the accord is 3400lbs+ now in some trims and that sux..........

2006 LX-V6 coupe is a hefty 3358 and the LX-V6 sedan is a whopping 3415lbs

compare that with a 03 LX-V6 that was 3240 and the LX-V6 sedan was only 3309lbs

 

So what did they add that weighs 110lbs? Pretty heavy stuff.

 

I'm not sure maybe some sound deadening materials, better upholstery, those 17" rims cannot be that light either.......

From the #s you posted, my car would be faster than the new accord......that's pretty sad considering I am down 40+ ponies.......

 

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Wouldn't that mean the 06 had even more than 244hp, going by the 03 rating (before mandate)?

 

The newer mandates require engine to run with normal accessory load I think (alt PS pump, etc). This means it would have a higher HP rating on the old system. The new cars can have higher HP ratings with with the increase in weight they need to bump up the torque to compensate for the extra weight....


here is what I found

SAE-certified horsepower
In 2005, the Society of Automotive Engineers introduced a new test procedure (J2723) for engine horsepower and torque. The procedure eliminates some of the areas of flexibility in power measurement, and requires an independent observer present when engines are measured. The test is voluntary, but engines completing it can be advertised as "SAE-certified".

Many manufacturers began switching to the new rating immediately, often with surprising results. The rated output of Cadillac's supercharger Northstar V8 jumped from 440 hp (328 kW) to 469 hp (350 kW) under the new tests, while the rating for Toyota's Camry 3.0 L 1MZ-FE V6 fell from 210 hp (157 kW) to 190 hp (142 kW). The first engine certified under the new program was the 7.0 L LS7 used in the 2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z06. Certified power rose slightly from 500 hp (373 kW) to 505 hp (377 kW).

 

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This isn't completely true. Like the info you found said, the new procedure merely eliminated areas of flexibility when it came to measuring power. From your own findings, one Cadillac gained 29 hp, and the '06 Z06 gained 5. On the other hand, the V6 Camry lost 20 hp.

In the Honda world, the S2000 lost 3 hp, and the '06 Accord lost about 6 hp. (There was an article in which a Honda engineer stated that the '06 Accord would have had roughly 250 hp under the old standards.) The gain in power in the '06 Accord was attributed to changes in ECU tuning.

In regards to 0-60 and 1/4 mile times, you have to keep in mind that there is a large variance in times for the exact same car, when the tests are performed by different magazines. One magazine will report a 1/4 mile time .3 seconds faster than another magazine did. It happens all the time.

 

I guess different weather conditions, different driver, etc. would make some difference. I suppose the extra 10hp just compensated for the extra 110lbs of weight. So it kind of evened it self out. The times were only like .5 seconds apart. You could probably run the same car twice, and have a half second difference.

 

yes I understand that but I said "I think" and then went and found it and posted it.

I would think that the slow down is directly related to how much weight the accord has gained.....3400+lbs isn't exactly light you know. I dunno what the gear ratios are or how many gear changes are required for the new 5at either but I would guess that it would be the same for an 03 and 05........

P,

do you now what the shift points are WOT on the new autos?