Alright, so I changed my clutch master/slave cylinder. Regreased/installed the slave today and bled the system. Clutch is feeling pretty much like it used to if not better but my car will still not chirp second gear like it used to. Its not a big deal other than the fact I know it used to. I did get it to burn out a little in first gear but that's it. Any ideas what it might be. I'm sure the clutch is good(no slippage) and everything related to the master/slave cylinder has been tightened up. Am I missing something obvious here? What about pedal height? I adjusted it to feel without measuring. Please put my tired mind to rest. Thanks in advance and to everyone who has helped me up to this point.

 

underpowered car, motor going to ****

 

Haha, thanks for at least posting. Although I'll assume your being sarcastic. I am the third owner of this car with a mint condition record book of every oil change and tune up in its life. It does suffer from having the less enjoyable SOHC D16 in it but it was always able to spin second easily at 5k RPMS before. Not anymore though. Anyone have a suggestion that I can USE?

 

loosen the lock nut and try adjusting the clutch master cylinder rod. adjust it out until there is only a small amount of pedal free play. the end of the rod will be flush with the "nut" it screws into.

 

That should give me roughly the right amount of freeplay and height settings? You've been a big help man, I really appreciate it. I have it set to where I thought it was before but when I bought the master cylinder it was set with the pedal buried in the floor, haha. I'll give it a shot tomorrow. Its an easy enough adjustment. Thanks for the tip!

 

let us know if you're chirping tires again...

 

Will do, haha. I know its faster to not spin tires while running throught the gears but there is something fun about it. Plus just knowing it used to and now it won't bugs the hell out of me.

 

Well I went out to adjust that rod today and I found it to be almost in the said spot. I turned to it was a little more flush with the bolt though and I'm gonna go wash it and test it out. Is there a chance that new components like slave/master cylinders have to break in? Could my clutch really be going bad out of nowhere after I changed em'? Thanks in advance.

 

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I once had a car (non-honda) that had some sort of seal, don't ask me which one, start to leak and put oil on the clutch surface so it couldn't grab as well.......maybe that?

Maybe it's just warmer out and your tires are sticking more.

 

yeah, because radial tires "grip better" when warm. j/k. the seal you are talking about is the rear main. usually it will slip when its contaminated with oil. OP, what do you mean by greased everything??? you didnt put grease inside the hydraulic part did you. i hope you meant you lubed the linkage and pivot points. anyhow. no matter what this is probably a worn pressure plate not holding the pressure it used to because of the burnouts you like to do.

 

By Re-greased I meant I sprayed some white lithium grease on the ball joint of the slave cylinder. Before I removed it though I did try to just spray some under the boot of the slave. But I don't think it went anywhere else. I suppose it could just be wearing out. I really don't get that rough with my car though, I just know that it would easily spin second on the few attempts I made at it. And what hydraulic part do you mean? On the slave? I did wipe some grease off of the part on the slave that pushes in before I re-installed it. So what am I looking at to fix this problem if it is the rear main seal? Thanks so much for posting too. You guys have been a big help.

 

Also, am I running any major damage risks by driving like this? I mean the clutch feels better than it ever has. Pedal is not too soft, not too tight. Gears are changing smoother. I just don't wanna burn anything up, haha. Thanks again.

 

you really shouldnt just performance on tire spinning. the variables changes way too often. say air pressure, you know for every 10° drop in ambient temp your tire pressure will drop an average of 1°. a few degrees can cause the wheels not to spin as easily. also, if you hit second quickly and dump the clutch while the revs are still high how does it feel??? if it doesnt feel like its draggin (slipping) i wouldnt worry to much about it. when the rear main starts to leak you will usually see oil in the driveway coming out of the inspection cover on the tranny.

 

oh and one more thing. brake fluid is water soluble, when mixed with a petroleum based product such as grease of almost any kind it creates a reaction that causes rubber seals to swell to a point that they wont work. if you put grease on the pivot points its good, i just wanted to make sure you didnt disassemble the slave cylinder and grease the cylinder bore.

 

oh, cool dude. Good to hear. Yeah, I got the car in the winter and we're finally getting above 45 degrees here. The car came on some horrible 17" rims with some very grippy tires. Perhaps these tires are finally starting to gain traction. It doesn't feel like the clutch is slipping when I hit second hard. More like a smooth shift. On some blacktop today though, I did feel a little bit of traction loss when I tried it. Maybe it is just the change of weather. I better stop trying it constantly though before I burn up my clutch, haha. And no sign of any fluids in the driveway. Thanks again!

 

no problem.

 

17's are why

 

dont chirp gears save your tires for the long run

 

x2

 

I would like to blame he 17s as well except they use to "bark em" just fine. I plan on ordering some Rota Group Ns soon though. I guess I'll see if that makes any difference. I'm also gonna check my tire pressure today. Someone mentioned the weather changing can affect that. THanks for the posts, though.

 

Well I checked my tire P.S.I today and it was at 30 when the sidewall of the tire reads 40, haha. So I filled em up and was able to get the feeling of wheelspin when shifting around 6k RPMS. No sound but I could feel it. I think these tires might just grip a little too well to get the full sound. Oh well, I'm gonna just be content with this for the time being. I'm sure I'll be back on here irritating people once I get my Rotas haha. Thanks again.

 

i dont know about you but in my situation, im only able to chirp with certain tires.

for example, kuhmo ecstas and falken ziex's gave me more of a fuhfuhfuh (lol) sound while some all season michilin craps and azenis gave me the chirping sound. i think it all depends on your tires your than your clutch

 

Sounds reasonable, the "fuhfuhfuh" sound, haha, is more what I'm getting now. I have falken azenis (i think; they came on the car). Maybe when I get my Rotas with different tires, I'll be able to tell better. Cause yeah, I don't feel any real slipping. I mean I can hammer the gas and the RPMS match the acceleration every time. I guess I don't have anything to really worry about then. Thanks alot for the post jerbear!