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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 03:42 PM
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My 3rd and 5th gears are grinding as I shift into them on my EM1 with a JDM B16A 1 gen. Can someone please give me step by step instruction (or a link that has it) on how to repair them? How much would it cost and what kind of tools I will be needing!? THANK YOU IN ADVANCE
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 06:02 PM
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im having the same problem with 2nd but im taking mine to a tranny shop
transmission=insanley hard to take apart but thats my 2 cents
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 07:06 PM
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not to insane..calm down u willl get mad.............stack everypart......as for syncros see whats wrong with yours may not be syncs maybe the shaft that there on? i dont know its like saying i blew the motor but i didnt open it there could be many thinbgs wrong
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 96accordlxf22b2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not to insane..calm down u willl get mad.............stack everypart......as for syncros see whats wrong with yours may not be syncs maybe the shaft that there on? i dont know its like saying i blew the motor but i didnt open it there could be many thinbgs wrong </TD></TR></TABLE>


If the transmission grinds going into gears, it's imo 99% of the time the synchromesh.

If your grinding gears, if you open up the transmission the copper looking rings with teeth might have wear on the teeth and round them down.

It's not a job for a kid to play with, if you've never worked on a transmision don't bother. You need a pres, lots of specs to get the gears/bearings in place and lots of past knowledge.

Take it to the transmission shop before you want to mess with it because it can cost you more if you start messing with it first.


synchro's go in pairs except 5th gear, 1/2, 3/4, 5. So looking at that, you might want to first get a quote on the cost of repair and if it's even worth it. Get a reputable transmission shop to replace the synchro's btw
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 10:21 AM
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPLIES. I'll be sure to take it to the shop. Something a noob like me should'nt really mess with.
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 10:24 AM
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BTW, I'm plan'n on extending this repair as long as possible. Is that really bad for teh tranny? Or should this matter be dealt with promto?
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 11:15 AM
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Well if u dont mind skipping 3 and 5 gears while u drive u can get by for awhile but i wouldnt let it ride for months. its like if u had a nice cut on your arm and u just let it go for a few weeks and then it becomes infected and they have to amputate the arm. a simple taking care of the cut coulda avoided disaster. a synchro job now will avoid further damage to the trans
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 01:39 PM
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If the transmission grinds going into gears, it's imo 99% of the time the synchromesh.

If your grinding gears, if you open up the transmission the copper looking rings with teeth might have wear on the teeth and round them down.

It's not a job for a kid to play with, if you've never worked on a transmision don't bother. You need a pres, lots of specs to get the gears/bearings in place and lots of past knowledge.

Take it to the transmission shop before you want to mess with it because it can cost you more if you start messing with it first.


synchro's go in pairs except 5th gear, 1/2, 3/4, 5. So looking at that, you might want to first get a quote on the cost of repair and if it's even worth it. Get a reputable transmission shop to replace the synchro's btw </TD></TR></TABLE>



i absolutely hate the synchromesh cure-all response that I see all the time here. sychros are made of BRASS (a soft malleable metal) and they act as brakes for the gear that is spinning at a different rpm than the stationary synchro hub. Improper revmatching puts more stress and wear/tear on the synchros. After time they will wear out and they will fail. No 45 dollar synchromesh nonsense is going to add brass to those synchros. Get a honda service manual or a helms manual. (not a haynes, they suck) And it will tell you step by step how to do it. Don't rush and don't take shortcuts and you'll be fine. There are several tools that you'll need to do this. If you don't have this you'll need to buy them. This is why people usually just take it to a tranny shop. (I avoid cross-genders by all means)
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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If the transmission grinds going into gears, it's imo 99% of the time the synchromesh.

If your grinding gears, if you open up the transmission the copper looking rings with teeth might have wear on the teeth and round them down.

It's not a job for a kid to play with, if you've never worked on a transmision don't bother. You need a pres, lots of specs to get the gears/bearings in place and lots of past knowledge.

Take it to the transmission shop before you want to mess with it because it can cost you more if you start messing with it first.


synchro's go in pairs except 5th gear, 1/2, 3/4, 5. So looking at that, you might want to first get a quote on the cost of repair and if it's even worth it. Get a reputable transmission shop to replace the synchro's btw </TD></TR></TABLE>

a press? what? that's funny, i recently watched the omni man dvd (you know about the 200whp b16a) and no where on there did i see him press anything on the tranny rebuild of the dvd, and he went step by step, braking everything down.
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 04:21 PM
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just check yo seeif there is goldish color in ur transmission fluid those brass teeth are dog teeth and help slow the speed gears for the shift collar to go on. the speed gears ride on bearings when the collar shifts onto it. it locls and then spins th at gear on the counter shaft down to the pinion gear and out the final drive
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 06:45 PM
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i rebuilt an automatic th700 transmisson at the school autoshop and that was an automatic.............which is alot harder than manual...........i didnt use a press.........i told u once already take it slow orginize and clean celan and clean
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 10:50 PM
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well let's see...i don't really know about that one...but my trans does the same thing with 2, 3 and 5 so if anyone has any steps i would appreciate it too.
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 11:31 PM
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not many kids like to f with stuff like that so its gunna be hard to find.................its easy unless ur a retard on a srious note dont let ppl tell u u need a bunch of tools u dont need (some told me to buy a shaft puller........a torque conveter remover..installer..a whole set of forks...and a press...and an air compresser) they said itll be cheaper for them to do its all bulls!t half the ppl on h-t will tell u the same thing seriously if u know a cool mechanic thatll help u out its easy (i know bout 3 of em and im a junior tech at a dealership so i guess im privaleged lol)
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