im looking to do a mini-me swap and was curious about the timing belt. i bought a timing belt for my d16a6 crx si last month because i thought it needed one, but the current one only has 30k miles on it, so it's still got good life on it. im looking to do a mini-me swap though with a y8 head. would i be able to use this timing belt with this head? thanks

 

No its to long,,

The y8 timing belt works,,but its really really tight,,Ive found that the 92-95 civic dx timing belt works better with the a6/minime setups..

 

so i could just buy an oem EG dx timing belt and it would work best?

 

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Yeah..The a6 timing belt has 107 teeth and is to loose..The y8/z6 belt work but its very very tight,,has 104 teeth.. The 92-95 dx has 106 teeth and works better..

 

ok. thanks. i was also wondering, what are thoughts on vtec controllers? a lot of people i see are saying "don't bother" but what do you use in place? im still an amateur so im still learning. any help would be appreciated.

 

A vtec controller is worthless..Im sorry..Because alot of people do mini-me setups and keep the stock si ecu and get a vtec controller..But that doesnt do anything but click the solenoid..It doesnt add the neccesary timing and fuel for vtec stage..A vtec controller is cool to get if you already have a vtec ecu,,But dont just get the vtec controller by itself and think you have vtec..

The best thing to do is convert to obd1 and run a p28 ecu,,or you can stay obd0 and have the ecu chipped and run turboedit one wire vtec setup,,its free program,,you just have to pay for the socketing and chip process...

Edit-And I see you have a 89,,its a pain to chip the 88-89 ecus..

 

ok, so i dont need a vtec controller at all. how much would a p28 ecu cost? or if i got my current ecu chipped, how much would it cost?

 

Well to run the p28 you need the p28 ecu itself and also convert to obd1..Id say the average price for a nonstolen p28 is around $75-$120..

But to get your ecu chipped check out xenocron.com..Like I say though the 89 ecu is a bitch to chip,,you can use any 90-91 pm6 ecu from si or pr4 from 90-91 integra also,these are easier to chip as they have external eprom..Check out http://pgmfi.org for lots more info..

 

if you were to do a mini-me swaq with a y8 head, what would be the price break down? and what would be the approximate total cost? i just dont want to get in over my head or anything

 

When I did it it wasnt that bad..

New Timing belt from rockauto $20
New Waterpump from rockauto $30
Had xenocron socket and chip the ecu for $70
Adjustable cam gear, $30 off ebay

That was it..Reused stock A6 dizzy,intake manifold,and fuel rail,injectors..Its not that bad..

 

what about the head?

 

also for me, since i have an 89, would it cost lest to chip my ecu or do i need to do the p28 with obd1 conversion (what is obd1 conversion?)

 

I found it on ebay complete for around $150 or so..I forget exact price it was a while ago..Sold the intake manifold and distributor and made some money back,,didnt plan on using that stuff anyway..

 

could you tell me if this is a good deal? it's $100 buy it now with $70 shipping
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...47249

im sorry, i just dont want to pour hundreds of dollars into something that ill need to pour hundreds more into

 

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If you can find a 90-91 ecu,,you'll be fine,,from any 90-91 integra,,90-91 civic/crx si or ex..There maybe some other ecus..

obd1 is on board diagnostics 1..92-95 = obd1,,,,, 88-91 = 0bd0 ..

To convert youll need
-4 wire o2 sensor
-obd1 p28 ecu
-obd0-obd1 conversion harness
-distibutor plug adapter
-obd1/obd2 distributor

For the harness you you find them at rywire.com or attempt to make one yor self if you're good with wiring..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hurleyint1386 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">could you tell me if this is a good deal? it's $100 buy it now with $70 shipping
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...47249

im sorry, i just dont want to pour hundreds of dollars into something that ill need to pour hundreds more into</TD></TR></TABLE>

Read it closely..THe seller says it comes without distributor..

Check out the classifieds on here..Theres a shitload of y8 heads for sale..

 

i cant find any y8 heads haha. i think im in the right place at least. the honda maketplace, then For Sale?

 

Yeah check the the marketplace ..And if you cant find one just put in your sig "WTB complete D16y8 head" Also check http://hondaclassifieds.com..And some times http://urbanracer.com classifieds..Alot of those guys are in the NJ,PA,NY area..

 

ok thanks a lot. how much should i look to spend on a head? (the maximum)

 

$150 for a complete stock good condition head at the most..

 

hey, thanks a lot. ill make sure to ask you more questions if i have them (which im sure i will)