Hey people i have been looking around for quite a while and i have yet to find any numbers about the drag series turbo kit. I plan to build a custom turbo because it seems that turbo kits in general are way over priced for there simple convience factor and there fuel managment sucks *****. Heres what i plan to do. I am getting a 88 with the b16 swap and i would like to turbo it asap. I was looking around for turbo manifolds and turbos. I have decided on getting a t3/t04e 50 trim .63 a/r turbine housing and .50 compression. I plan to keep the stock internals for a while. I also wanted to get the drag kit ic piping because thats one of the things that i dont really want to mess with(making custom piping) on this car because i hear its a bitch to fit in there anyways(anyone know any other ic piping that i could use i am open to sugestions). I know that i need the half radiator and im counting on losing the a/c. I have turboed my last car so i know the basics but I have a few honda questions. The drag manifold, i havent herd anything good or anything bad about them. ssautochrome=**** i am well aware of that and i dont want to spend $800 on a manifold right away. Over time ill build up the kit and maby ill make this thing my track car but for now all im going for is the fun street car. My aim is 300bhp with using crome or uberdata. Anyone have any input that would be great. I have searched for a couple weeks but i cant seem to find the very specific questions that i have asked and i was wondering if there is anything wrong with what i want to do right now. Thanks for reading my long post. I am open to any ideas that people may have let me hear it.


Modified by SIMSSEGA at 12:53 PM 3/14/2006

 

if you looking for a manifold i plan on getting a cc-fab manifold good quality and there pretty cheap

http://www.cc-fab.net

 

Sounds like you've done some research

Budget plenty of money for tuning and any necessary custom fabrication (DP, IC piping, etc if you're not adept at welding - like me).

 

better yet buy my GT30R!

 

wow good call on the cc fab manifold that things really cheap and with a warrenty againt cracking you cant beat that.

 

Your on the right track...have you thought about boosting an ls motor instead? Just thought I'd throw that in there, wasn't sure if you're buying the car with a b16 already in it. Basically they're cheaper, lower compression, and more displacement so more torque.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nisif &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your on the right track...have you thought about boosting an ls motor instead? Just thought I'd throw that in there, wasn't sure if you're buying the car with a b16 already in it. Basically they're cheaper, lower compression, and more displacement so more torque.</TD></TR></TABLE>The LS is the same bore size as a B16 it just the longer stroke that gives it the torque. Also about the turbo alot of people are using the T3/T4 .57 trim with a .63 A/R, another turbo option that hasn't failed tomake good power.

 

So the car i am getting does already have the b16 motor

 

What does the engine code on the block say? I was just commenting about the LS motor specs.

 

I cant seem to find anything about the piping for the IC. I found a few pics a few weeks back and now i cant find the pics. But can someone really give some good directions about the piping. I went to the drag website and they have a kit that would fit my application but they dont sell it from there web site and i dont kow if it would fit the manifold im plannig to get. The only thing that i have read is that i should get 5 180 degree bends and 3 feet of straight pipe. Thats all i have come up with nothing more. I have also been trying to look at pics from old posts and as usual the images cant be found. does anyone know the name of the thread that the pics of the b16 turboed crx is or does anyone else know where i can get really go information about the piping. Thanks.

 

if you go with a cc-fab manifold we could make you charge piping to bolt right onto your crx.

 

Yeah our gonna have a hell of a time trying to find intercooler piping, I just by luck picked up some intercooler piping.

 

well as of now i am planning on going with the cc-fab manifold. If i were to get the piping could i later upgrade my manifold to a ramhorn style and still have everything in the same spot, aka would the turbo hang down the same distance with all the different manifolds?

As far as radiators go would this one work. For $199 shipped its a pretty good deal if you ask me. http://www.homemadeturbo.com/f...198.0 The guy selling it says that it fits 92-00 so does that mean civic? or doesnt it matter because the demensions are right and this thing is going to be custom mounted anyways?

 

I've wonder about switching from a log manifold to a ram horn, it seems like you would have to reroute the intercooler piping for it. But that radiator is for a 92-00 civic/del sol and to have it fit under the hood you gonna have to modify the crossmember or have the gangster lean I believe to fit under the hood of an EF.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SIMSSEGA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well as of now i am planning on going with the cc-fab manifold. If i were to get the piping could i later upgrade my manifold to a ramhorn style and still have everything in the same spot, aka would the turbo hang down the same distance with all the different manifolds?

As far as radiators go would this one work. For $199 shipped its a pretty good deal if you ask me. http://www.homemadeturbo.com/f...198.0 The guy selling it says that it fits 92-00 so does that mean civic? or doesnt it matter because the demensions are right and this thing is going to be custom mounted anyways?</TD></TR></TABLE>

which manifold were you thinking about going with. the chuck norris would mount the turbo very close to the same spot as the ramhorn but the short tubular and the log will not. either way all the piping would be the same except for the hot side pipe comming from th turbo into the wheel well and you can always just change that one piece out at a later date. not a big deal.

yes your going to use any civic half core radiator and unless you add a traction bar its going to fit like **** and your going to have to mount it so it leans in towards the motor to clear the hood.

 

are there any other radiator options that i could go with? I have read that some people are going with the del sol half radiator.
I could also try to pull off what this guy did it looks pretty good to me https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1555733 I cant seem to find the exact radiator that he is using in that car. C&R 3/4 radiator???

Oh yea i was planning to go with the log because im a broke ***

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SIMSSEGA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are there any other radiator options that i could go with? I have read that some people are going with the del sol half radiator.
I could also try to pull off what this guy did it looks pretty good to me https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1555733 I cant seem to find the exact radiator that he is using in that car. C&R 3/4 radiator???

Oh yea i was planning to go with the log because im a broke *** </TD></TR></TABLE>

hes using an aftermarket crossmember also you couldnt do what he did with the stock crossmember. if you run an aftermarket crossmember you wont have any issues using a half core anyways. the del sol uses the exact same radiatoor as the civics do also.

 

After marke crossmember? Like this one? http://www.passwordjdm.com/pro...D=431
Thats not that expensive for a radiator to fit. Maby i should look into that.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SIMSSEGA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">After marke crossmember? Like this one? http://www.passwordjdm.com/pro...D=431
Thats not that expensive for a radiator to fit. Maby i should look into that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

something like that ut that one isnt really worth the money cause you still use your stock radius arms and you need to buy new bushings. you can get a whole traction bar setup with new radius arms and solid end links AND its already got mounting tabs for a half size radiator for $277 shipped http://www.homemadeturbo.com/f...402.0.

 

Thanks Man you've been a great help so far and i think i will go with cc fab manifold and piping

 

So deos anyone know anything about the cc-fab wastegates? I know there manifolds are really inexpensive but $30 for a wastegate thats nuts and do those have any sort of warranty?
What size injectors would i need to buy inorder to run about 7-9lbs of boost on the stock b16 engine? I was hoping to get some 450cc dsm injectors and if those would work out as just a plug and play or would i need the resistor box and everything?


Modified by SIMSSEGA at 1:22 PM 3/15/2006

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SIMSSEGA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So deos anyone know anything about the cc-fab wastegates? I know there manifolds are really inexpensive but $30 for a wastegate thats nuts and do those have any sort of warranty?
What size injectors would i need to buy inorder to run about 7-9lbs of boost on the stock b16 engine? I was hoping to get some 450cc dsm injectors and if those would work out as just a plug and play or would i need the resistor box and everything?


Modified by SIMSSEGA at 1:22 PM 3/15/2006</TD></TR></TABLE>

its not $30 for a wastegate its $30 to add the flange for an external wastegate. dsm 450's would be fine to run 7-9 psi on a moderatley sized turbo

 

Corey how much would custom ic piping cost?
On the website it says $200 does that apply to all applications?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SIMSSEGA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Corey how much would custom ic piping cost?
On the website it says $200 does that apply to all applications?</TD></TR></TABLE>

that price is for EF's also if thats what your asking. shoot me a pm when your ready to buy your setup i can probably get you a deal on a mani/downpipe/dumptube/charge pipe setup if youd like.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SIMSSEGA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">After marke crossmember? Like this one? http://www.passwordjdm.com/pro...D=431
Thats not that expensive for a radiator to fit. Maby i should look into that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah. I just picked of an Innovative traction bar LOTS of clearance for a 4-1 header etc. You would need to use a EG radiator here are some pics of the crossmember. Dont mind this header being replaced soon.