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Is the S4C tranny really a B16B(CTR) tranny?

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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 07:33 AM
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Default Is the S4C tranny really a B16B(CTR) tranny?

i really would like to find this out cuz i keep finding different answers.
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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 07:39 AM
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we need a tranny forum
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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 08:22 AM
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Default Re: Is the S4C tranny really a B16B(CTR) tranny? (Hybrid93Eg)

Well since the b16b is a destroked ITR block I would assume that the tranny is the same LSD equipped one as the ITR.
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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 08:27 AM
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Default Re: Is the S4C tranny really a B16B(CTR) tranny? (MotorMouth)

they are the same as the 00-01 civic si tranny

same gearing but with lsd

http://www.ff-squad.com/tech/temp/Bgears.htm
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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 09:36 AM
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Default Re: Is the S4C tranny really a B16B(CTR) tranny? (vtec25)

Both the EK9 tranny and the EM1 tranny have the S4C code.
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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 10:04 AM
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Default Re: Is the S4C tranny really a B16B(CTR) tranny? (Targa250R)

OK so i guess i have the del sol than cuz i have no vins on it.
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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 10:23 AM
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Default Re: Is the S4C tranny really a B16B(CTR) tranny? (vtec25)

As far as I know it's called the Y80 transmission. Only difference between the two are the fact that the Y80 should have a stock LSD on it.

The gear ratios are the same, as is the final ratio between the Y80 and S4C.
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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 11:09 AM
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The S4C is not a CTR transmission. The CTR transmission is the same as 97 and older JDM ITR's and all USDM ITR's.

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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 12:16 PM
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Default Re: Is the S4C tranny really a B16B(CTR) tranny? (Hybrid93Eg)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid93Eg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I had a CTR tranny on my old setup. It was clearly labeled as an "S4C".. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Then you didn't have a CTR tranny, you had either a USDM B16A2 transmission, B16A3 transmission, a JDM SiR2, or a JDM SiR2 transmission with an LSD.

But as far as I'm concerned, who cares? They all have the same ratios.
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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 01:00 PM
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Default Re: Is the S4C tranny really a B16B(CTR) tranny? (Hybrid93Eg)

well all i know mine has very short gear ratio cuz i be cruising in 4th gear at around 3800rpm's or so at 40mph or so.

could my tach be off?


Modified by vtec25 at 2:39 AM 3/17/2006
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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 01:14 PM
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4th gear, 40mph at 3800rpms doesn't sound right. if i remember i'll test it out tonight when i leave work but i think you'd be under 3800 at 40 in 4th
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 05:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MotorMouth &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well since the b16b is a destroked ITR block I would assume that the tranny is the same LSD equipped one as the ITR.</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid93Eg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What does this have to do with anything? He asked if the S4C was a CTR tranny. Not if the B16B was a destroked ITR motor (common knowledge)... Or if the LSD was any different then that of the ITR tranny. </TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RTI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The S4C is not a CTR transmission. The CTR transmission is the same as 97 and older JDM ITR's and all USDM ITR's. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well Mr. hybrid93eg, the b16b is the ctr motor and since that motor is a destroked Itr motor, and the 99-00 si tranny and usdm itr's share common gear ratios. Honda didn't make another tranny for the ctr they used an itr tranny. Which is what I was saying in the first post.

Waassa matta may englis not gud enuff fo joo to ndastand?
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 06:07 AM
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the 98+ spec jdm ITR's have the same first 3 gears as 96-97 jdm itr/99-00 usdm si/97-01 ctr/94-95 del sol, but has different 4 and 5 gears and a shorter final drive ratio.
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 10:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MotorMouth &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Well Mr. hybrid93eg, the b16b is the ctr motor and since that motor is a destroked Itr motor, and the 99-00 si tranny and usdm itr's share common gear ratios. Honda didn't make another tranny for the ctr they used an itr tranny. Which is what I was saying in the first post.

Waassa matta may englis not gud enuff fo joo to ndastand?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I know what a B16B is you fool. I also know that its simply a destroked ITR motor, only there is a little more to it then just that. I just fail to see why you felt the need to start blabbing about "the CTR motor is this... " and crap like that.
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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tested it out yesterday. 4th gear, 3800rpm 52mph
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