Only another Type R version !!!! MMMM **** Z06. Ill take one of these anyday. I just picked my model up at the car show. I have about 6 of them now. All 1/18th scale. WRX Imprezza, F50, F40, Cobra R, 69 cuda, S2000

 

Too bad the Z06 will eat it for lunch, be cheaper and still have AC

 

Too bad the Z06 is for greasers and Guidos... Too bad they suck and cant design a car to save their lives. If i wanted a Z06, Id get the orginal AKA the 93-95 RX7.


Z06
RX7/ Cobra R

 

****** cobra r's are only a little faster than stock z28s an its what a 1/4 of the price , it may not handle as well but the extra money you spend on gettin the cobra r oyu could have 11 second show quality incredible handling z28 and for the price of either one these pos american cars you could have one of the baddest hondas around

 

Cobra R isnt about quarter mile!!! Its about road course. Isnt it obvious? I would never buy a Camaro or Vette. Biggest POS out there. They look like a 5 year old put them together.

If i wanted a bad Honda Id build one. No Honda is as rare as a Cobra R either... Its all about the 5000 RPM burout in RWD. Do one and you will understand...

 

Check out this months SCC.
The Elise Type R beat the crap out of the Cobra R in every category.
Both are equally priced also. The Cobra is just too big and heavy.

 

check this out. The elise is not a race ready car. The Cobra R can handle MUCH more abuse than the Elise or your prescious Z06. Both will have to be race preped in order to not blow up or fail. The R is a complete component motor ready to be run by the best of the best. Oil pan, tranny, cams, sus, lifters...

all of them are reinforced beyond what the Z06 and the Elise are. In a 24 hour. Z06 and elise go pop, Cobra R finishes.

Of course SCC is goign to have the Elise win. They are stupid import zealots. They dont even know how to launch the Cobra R...

 

They dont know how to launch???.... Did you read the article, they tried to launch that heavy fat *** pig cobra R time and time again.... It's just tooo FAT!

Ford - sheesh, who the **** still buy's fords, in this day and age anyway.

 

check this out, http://applications.edmunds.com/vide...ustang+Cobra+R


[Modified by hooptie157, 11:12 AM 3/31/2002]

 

They cant and wont launch the car correctly because they have a hard on for Hondas. ANd go forbid a domestic win a shootout in an import magazine. Its all politcal. That car can easily turn low 13 passes even though its a RACE READY TRACK CAR NOT SET UP FOR QUARTER MILE!!!!

You bring what ever little honda or Mazda or checy or nissan or toyota you want and Ill bring my friends Mustang.. then we will see. 351 TT? And it handles too...

 

Speaking of Car Show, did anyone checked out 3rd floor acc. gallery at the NYC Auto show. I picked up cheap pull backs DC5R for $5.00. It came either in Red, Silver, and Blue w/ white wheels. It does have all markings. I know its waste of money but its part of my R collections.

 

yea so out of 3 cars it came in second... I guess you guys can apreciate what Honda did with the Integra and the ITR by taking and everyday car IE Civic and making at a fun sporty car, but when someone else does the same, take a regualr everyday car and make it racier to compete in a class it doesnt belong, you guys **** all over it... Way to hold a double standard.

Id still take one over a Viper and Vette and trace my ITR for it in a second. Rarer than any of the previous 3.

1 of 300? come on... Thats awsome. there are thousands of z06 vettes out there and they look the same as a regualr one. With a Cobra R you are the top of the mustang food chain and people know it.

 

Listen ******..

I am not going to get into a "My car is faster then your car" argument... that fact of the matter is, the Type R... was designed as a pretty decent track car... I mean, right out of the box, you can pull some respectable times at your local track, have some fun, and improve your driving at the same time....

As for your friends mustang... **** him... If I want to go fast in a straight line, which by they way takes all the aptitude of an ant... I will jump on my Gixxer 600.

So go **** a toad.

You PIG!

 

I'm waiting for the new Cobra with a supercharger and (I've heard) 380-390 hp. I think Car and Driver said mid $30s or so.

 

Vey well put. I've actually sat in both, ridden in the zo6, but the Cobra R wasn't moving. SIt in both and see what you think.


<---------------------big fan of the cobra R

 

Listen ******..

I am not going to get into a "My car is faster then your car" argument... that fact of the matter is, the Type R... was designed as a pretty decent track car... I mean, right out of the box, you can pull some respectable times at your local track, have some fun, and improve your driving at the same time....

As for your friends mustang... **** him... If I want to go fast in a straight line, which by they way takes all the aptitude of an ant... I will jump on my Gixxer 600.

So go **** a toad.

You PIG!

 

hmm mature. You got caught. The integra R is the same thing that the Cobra R is, its just a honda so you think its the greatest thing in the world. What do you think the Cobra R was designed for? To be a decent, hard working track car. Just like your precious ITR. And it does it. Face facts man. It doesnt say Honda on it so you think its sucks. So there is a car that is just slightly faster than it so it must suck ***.

Let see. The Z06 has 20 more HP, the Viper alot more. The Viper is 80G, the Z06 about 50G close to the R. By a numbers account, the R should be in 3rd place. But it finished 2nd in that test above... So its over achieving. Just liek the great Type R. Imagine that...


FYI, my friends 351TT out ran a Hayabusa, so your **** ant 600 stands no chance...

 

Okay, enough with the stupid flaming. Get over it, everyone has different tastes. I think this is a good thread, because I was thinking of trading the R in. After what just happened, and that I will be open for attack again, I want something else. I'm not 100%, but if I find something worthy, who knows? So lets get some ideas floating....

-WRX
-RSX-S
-350Z??

Something new, somewhat practical, and fun.

 

I got a ride in a really sweet WRX. Guy claimed 315 HP with a new turbo. He has spent about 5 Gs. If there is no upgading going on, its look at the 350 or maybe the IS300 with a stick

 

Come on guys don't give Honda owners and particularly ITR owners a bad name by being ignorant.

The Cobra R is a pretty cool car because it follows the same idea that other homologated specials like the ITR did. However I agree that its performance is not quite where it should be since the Z06 can still take it on a road course. Maybe when a Cobra R with a supercharger shows up it'll be the world beater it should be.

I also disagree with Ford only making 300 Cobra R's. By doing this they basically ensured that not a whole lot of race teams will campaign it. What they had was a bunch of dealers price gouging it and a bunch of collectors snatching them up. Result? I don't think there are any Cobra R's racing today. On the other hand there are ITR's and Z06's in every major road racing series in the U.S. Homologated race car production numbers should not be kept low to satisfy collectors and greedy dealers, they should be kept in line with demand from race teams and performance enthusiasts.

As for the "race" reliability I don't know how you came to that conclusion. Do you know for a fact that Ford built tighter design tolerances into the Cobra R than the Elise and Z06? Did Ford specifically build the Cobra R for endurance racing? I doubt it. I'm not saying the Cobra R won't win in a 24 hour race but I'm saying you don't have any empirical basis to say that it will. And now that I think about it the Cobra R's that were running Grand-Am/Motorola Cup in the past few years were not able to beat the well-prepped Z06's in the class.

I didn't read the Sport Compact article but I agree that they have an unreasonable Honda/small car bias. When they had that shootout between the ITR and the Mustang GT and the Mustang won on the road course they changed the configuration of the course so the ITR could win. Not very objective IMO. I don't know if I'd trust any of their conclusions in future mismatch comparos. They need to decide whether or not they want to be a true sports car magazine or a biased pocket rocket magazine.

 

B-Diddy, your an idiot, you have always been an idiot and you will always be an idiot. Everytime I read apost by you its all about this super fast super cool car youve driven or are going to drive. Dude if you have such a hardon for Fords then why dont you ******* buy one, or maybe just trade your mom for her Cobra convertible or whatever the **** she has.

 

What the hell?

Z06 runs low/mid 12s all Chevy parts, reliable, 30+mpg, great track car, great autox car, hell you can even drag it.

Cobra R is barely even a ******' Ford... and who wants a damn Ford?

Rx-7 is the **** but what does that have to do with anything, they're a decade old.

 

I'm not trying to defend SCC but I do like how they show people that having tons of horse power doesn't make a great sports car. It's all about the total package.
Bottom line is that a heavy car such as the Mustang will always wear down its tires, brakes and suspension alot more that a smaller car. When you factor in fuel mileage, it's even a stronger argument. I'm just answering the question in the topic; I would chose the Elise over the Cobra.

 

Definatly. The should have sold them direct to race teams from the factory. Liek Yamaha did with the R7. I can vouch for 1 being on the road/track. I have seen it twice in NY. Both times it had red an blues flashing behind it.

The race prep comes from the aftermarket companies that were used to build the engine. Crower, Morroso and a bunch of others were tapped and their parts went right in at the factory. They used race ready parts that you or I would buy to upgrade over stock internals. This goes for pistons, retainers, lifters, valves, ect. the whole motor was like a giant component set. Im making a comparison stock to stock. A stock Z06 doesnt have race ready internals. It has regular chevy parts in it. Sure a race prepped Z06 could win. But we do know that the Z06 was race prepped, and we dont know if they Rs prepped farther or just used factory. They are by no means the best race parts, but they are stronger than stock internals.

Thank you for bringing up the GT and ITR. Excellent example of them playing to their basis, which is smart, but they shouldnt make say some of the things they said. They even say they have a tendance to pick the ITR. How can you trust the rest of the article if they admit to liking the R better. Before even driving it.

 

check this out. The elise is not a race ready car. The Cobra R can handle MUCH more abuse than the Elise or your prescious Z06. Both will have to be race prepped in order to not blow up or fail. The R is a complete component motor ready to be run by the best of the best. Oil pan, tranny, cams, sus, lifters...

I work at Ford. I've worked at GM Powertrain where I did Y Car P/T Durability and some R&D work. You're smoking crack, dude. One thing the plastic car from Warren, MI is is durable. The P/T can take a tremendous amount of abuse. As can the transmission and the rear end. The LS-6 is also a 'special' engine and you can read the in-depth article on http://www.c5registry.com

All of them are reinforced beyond what the Z06 and the Elise are. In a 24 hour. Z06 and elise go pop, Cobra R finishes.

Those 5.4L 4 Valve specialty motors were ALL recalled, btw. That's right, ALL 350 OF THEM... And what muppet would claim that the Elise cannot or would not do well in a 24 hour endurance event? It's got the better chassis -- Aluminum monocoque. It's got a hand-built competition motor and a helluva suspension set-up. You're speculating wildly.

Of course SCC is goign to have the Elise win. They are stupid import zealots. They dont even know how to launch the Cobra R...

I'd imagine they're better drivers than any who hang out here...