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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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How hard is it to changer over from a factory exhaust to an after market one?

Who makes the best exhaust out there?

Do you know if the Greddy part #10156705 will fit a 06 coupe V6 MT?

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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 02:00 PM
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Default Re: Dual Exhaust change over? (luckyfish1)

I'm pretty sure you need a lift, I've never heard of anyone using just a jack to do it.

A complete 2.25" piping from your local muffler shop should run you somewhere between 200-300 bucks (at least it did for me), then you could slap on some nice Greddy muffs and get the same performance boost for cheaper than an exhaust kit. Also, P_Adams showed me an article about not changing over your cat in our 7th gens (don't know if that is different for 06) because it will cause problems.

I've also been told that mandrel bending is of higher performance than normal exhaust piping, but I don't want to delve into that because it works fine for me and I don't know much about it.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 09:38 PM
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Mandrel bent exhaust piping does allow for better evacuation of exhaust than standard "crush bent" pipe.

Crush bent means that the pipe has been bent in a manner that narrows, or crushes, the diameter of the pipe where the bend occurs. This restricts the flow of your exhasut gases going through the pipe, which can cause losses in performance.

Mandrel bent is done using a mandrel inside the pipe to bend it, which does not crush the pipe, keeping the diameter equal to the rest of the piping before and after the bend, thus not restricting the flow of exhaust gases going through the pipe.

Most factory exhaust systems, and many poor aftermarket ones, will use crush bent pipe of a fairly narrow diameter, so if you switch to a mandrel bent system with a decently generous diameter, you can get significant gains in performance in most cases.
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 05:33 AM
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Default Re: Dual Exhaust change over? (Durkhanus)

Have any of you out there used the Tanabe Medalion Touring?

It sure looks like a nice system!
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 06:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by msedacca &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm pretty sure you need a lift, I've never heard of anyone using just a jack to do it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

no, you don't need a lift. A lift would be real nice but how many of us have access to a lift?

I put a new cat and an APEXi World Sport II cat-back exhaust on my 92 Civic hatchback by just jacking the car up and using a jack stand at each corner. The car wasn't high up either, I want to say it was at the low setting on my Craftsman 2 1/4 ton jack stands. I had enough room to get in there and break the bolts free. It can be done with a jack and stands, just makes things a bit more difficult.
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 10:03 AM
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yeah, but you're talking about a 2000lb civic that is much shorter than a 7G. My friend tried putting the exhaust on his TSX and couldn't do it with just a jack, so I'm ASSUMING that it can't be done on a accord because they are of an alike body size. However, the method you're talking about by putting a jack stand on each side might work, but idk. I dont have access to a lift, I just paid the 80 bucks for someone else to do it so that I wouldn't eff it up.
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 10:22 AM
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yes, but the weight of the car makes no difference. The length, maybe. But even with the shorter wheel base I still wasn't able to do it with just one ended lifted.

I assume when you say jack, your just using the jack to lift the car and then a stand to support it right? Never get under a car that isn't supported by jack stands, unless your on a lift of course.

It would be difficult to just lift one end of any car and do the full exhaust. I tried to just lift the rear of my hatch but the front was so low, I couldn't get in there to remove the bolts that hold the exhaust to the header so I had to lift both ends of the car so it was level and supported by four jack stands, one at each corner.

By lifting the entire car, whether it's on a lift or jack stands, you should be able to replace the exhaust on just about any car. When using jack stands, your going to be cramped for space, but I don't see why it can't be done.

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when I totalled my 95 Accord EX and stripped it, I was able to remove the exhaust while it was on four jack stands. It was no different than working on my hatch.
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 10:55 AM
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Default Re: Dual Exhaust change over? (luckyfish1)

I'm partial to Magnaflow for my exhaust systems.

https://www.fulllineexhaust.co...15824

Unfortunately, they list only thru '05.
A call may determine the '06 fits as well

* You need a lift to do it in a reasonable time (for a Cat-back System)
Although it can be accomplished with a set of ramps on the front, and a jack stand in the rear.

P
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 12:19 PM
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Default Re: Dual Exhaust change over? (P_Adams)

Any one else use Magna flow?
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 01:22 PM
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No, but the muffs I have are Ractive (reactive i've seen both) and are basically like it. They were so goddamn loud that it shook my car w/o silencers. Lesson learned, buy greddy muffs, smaller tips (4"). Then again, the old saying is, sacrifice noise for performance so the louder the faster (technically). Basically a muffler is a muffler and it shouldn't make a huge difference performance wise. I personally think greddy sounds best on accords, and just about any car for that matter.

As far as the installation goes, how do you have 4 stands? Rent a few? I thought before you had said you were lifting one end at a time and did it with 2 stands, my mistake.
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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Greddy will not aswer the phone! I SAT on HOLD for over 1 hour! I dont know if they make an exhaust for the 06. With that service they might not get my business!
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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Default Re: Dual Exhaust change over? (luckyfish1)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by luckyfish1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Greddy will not answer the phone! I SAT on HOLD for over 1 hour!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Unfortunately, this isn't the first time I've heard that comment. I've also caught some colorful descriptions of Forum Denisens' dealings with Greddy's Customer Service Desk.

You may have better luck conversing with one of their distributors or direct resellers.

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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 06:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by msedacca &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As far as the installation goes, how do you have 4 stands? Rent a few? I thought before you had said you were lifting one end at a time and did it with 2 stands, my mistake. </TD></TR></TABLE>

total, I have 8 jack stands. 4 I keep at my apartment and 4 kept at my moms.

At first I tried to just lift one end of the car and support it with two stands, but I could reach the bolts that connected the exhaust pipe to the header so I had to lift the front as well as the back to get the room I need to remove everything. At that point I had the front supported on two stands and the rear supported on 2 stands thus having the entire car in up on jack stands.
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 06:22 PM
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Default Re: Dual Exhaust change over? (TouringAccord)

Did you take off the wheels and jack it up on the axle? I saw someone do that when they wanted to work under the engine, all it did was uncompress the springs and moved the car up a foot or so. By putting a jack on each hub of the front axle that is.
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 03:46 AM
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Default Re: Dual Exhaust change over? (msedacca)

uh, nope. Not exactly sure what your describing, but I use the front and rear tow hooks to lift the front or rear of the car. Then I put a jack stand under points where you use the stock sissor jack when replacing a flat or something.

Here's a couple pictures that may help with what I'm describing.

<U>Lift Points</U>


<U>Support Points</U>


Those diagrams are for 5th gen Accords, so others years/cars may be slightly different.
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