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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 02:26 PM
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I am looking for just the expander, not the whole pipe bending machine that comes with one. I am sure someone out there must have made one, having a real hard time finding one... any one know if there is one out there?
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 02:39 PM
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there not cheap i know that
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NAPIER &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there not cheap i know that</TD></TR></TABLE>

But they do make them?
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 03:03 PM
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Depending on what you need it for this might work

http://www.harborfreight.com/c...37353
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 00Evan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Depending on what you need it for this might work

http://www.harborfreight.com/c...37353</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah I was hopeing those would work, but it couldn't even expand 18 guage piping **** broke in 2 seconds.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 03:11 PM
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Maybe try heating the pipe with a torch before using those.

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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 03:16 PM
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go to southern-tool.com they sell them ,but there like 3k
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 03:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 00Evan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Maybe try heating the pipe with a torch before using those.

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That’s a very good idea, but the expander in the link above, is held together with heavy duty rubber bands basically, I would think those would melt and the metal things will just fall.

But that would probably work.



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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 03:22 PM
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I'm sure it doesn't affect the usage if the bands melt, you'll just have to reposition every part by hand when you take the flare tool out because it won't stay together when not in a pipe. Once its in the pipe it doesn't matter if the bands melt. Just get yourself a bag of rubber bands for like 50 cents and replace the bands between each pipe you flare.

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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 03:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NAPIER &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">go to southern-tool.com they sell them ,but there like 3k</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks dude, this will work great http://www.southern-tool.com/s...13935

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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 04:00 PM
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I wonder how good that thing will work.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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ben pearson and a couple of others make a hydraulic unit that can be used with a hand or air over hydraulic pump
The orings that hold the segments together are not a problem and don't melt I have one of these and will get a number for the manufacturer in the am
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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I finally received the expander today. I ended up getting this one http://www.southern-tool.com/s...13936 best money I ever spent! Works perfect.


the pedal:


the expander gun:


all the sizes it can do:


some pipes:



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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 03:28 PM
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that is pretty nice. did that really cost about 1k?
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 03:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lam.N &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that is pretty nice. did that really cost about 1k?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah it was and this was the cheapest place I found http://automotivetools.com/cgi...97409came out to 1k shipped.

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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 04:05 PM
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Thats pretty sweet. I may have to invest in one soon.
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 05:31 PM
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Holy crap. So it comes with the dies? or do you have to buy them separate?
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 06:02 PM
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does it say anything about how thick of tubing u can use this thing on. how thick was the stuff you were using
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 06:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stealth-wrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Holy crap. So it comes with the dies? or do you have to buy them separate?</TD></TR></TABLE>

It comes with 3 dies to do a lot of the sizes between 1 1/2" up to 2 1/2" they sell dies to be able to do 2 1/2" 3 1/2" separately.
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 06:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NAPIER &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does it say anything about how thick of tubing u can use this thing on. how thick was the stuff you were using</TD></TR></TABLE>

I used it on 18 and 16 gauge without a problem.
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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Daniel I'm sure you assumed I was going to resurrect this thread...

After talking to you on the phone, I went out to a few muffler shops, they looked at my ss tubing 16ga, and told me they wouldnt expand it. They then gave me a few examples of some broken tooling they had. I then went to another shop, they stuck it in, lubed it up, flipped the lever and CRRRAAAAACK! Their die just busted.

I am honestly considering getting the air unit due to cost, now was it really that bad?
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 06:17 PM
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dope setup. Ive been looking for one of these for a while. Tho' I think it will be one of my later purchases.

btw great prices on stainless!!!
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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freaking awesome prices!

I dropped like 1800 with them recently, and the next best quote was for 2200 from another supplier. Danny is the man!
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 11:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DESTROYER &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Daniel I'm sure you assumed I was going to resurrect this thread...

After talking to you on the phone, I went out to a few muffler shops, they looked at my ss tubing 16ga, and told me they wouldnt expand it. They then gave me a few examples of some broken tooling they had. I then went to another shop, they stuck it in, lubed it up, flipped the lever and CRRRAAAAACK! Their die just busted.

I am honestly considering getting the air unit due to cost, now was it really that bad?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, most muffler shops don't really work with stainless. I've had a few of the expanders break on me also, but usually only when I put the tube in there at an odd angle, even than it's rare for it to break.

The expander above, broke on me twice, the second time I bought this one (what I was telling you about on the phone):


I have used it heavily for the past 6 months with no problems at all. Its a $1000 more but is worth the money. The little one would struggle to expand the SS (it would but it was a lot of strain I could tell) the new one opens it like butter.
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were you running it at the maximum recommended air pressure?
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