I plan on turboing my ZC down the road but I need to build up my block first. I was looking to buy a ZC block and build it up to be able to with stand about 300 whp but i'm also wondering if I should just get awhole new ZC and work on the whole thing and possibly keep the old motor as a back up maybe just incase the new one blows for one reason or another ....but what do you all think..i need some feedback

 

i say 300 is pushing it, but if you do everything correctly...all i have to say is good luck...

 

U really think 300whp is pushin it??....i woulda thought maybe 400-500 would B...i figured at 300 i'll B able to take most ppl wit ease...and still B able to daily drive it wit no problems

 

dude lol u dont need 1000000000 hp to go somewhwere in a vechile that weighs around 2,000 pounds or less. all u need is like 200-250, anything more than that all ur gonna be doing is spinning the tires off the line. and remember, if ur doing this for torque, hondas are torquless bastards to begin with.

 

U rite lol...I got a few mods done to it already N i'm spinning thru 1st as is...maybe i'll just use my 240 for the big HP numbers....now i gotta debate as to if I should swap out the ZC w/ a B16 or build the shyt outa the ZC cuz ppl tell me its a good motor to turbo...

 

as a matter of fact a friend of mines suggested a B20...or was it a B20 bottom end and a B18 head for use of the trqe from the B20...wha do U think about that idea??

 

search crvtec or lsvtec for what he might have been talking about.
The ZC is a pretty good motor to work with buddy of mine had a nice setup scooted well didn't cost him much either.

If you swap to a B series it'll cost you but be worth the pay off ease of getting parts everything and anything you can dream of is out for it.

If all you want is 240 hell you can do that with an N/A B setup or a very light instant spooling turbo even a S/C will net that.

 

b20's are nice yeah, but only the block...now with a b18 head it should be nice especially if u build it right.....

but do a SEARCH for the CRV-vtec or LS-vtec, pretty much the same thing

 

dont listen to these guys man, no offense, b20 blocks are thin like tissue paper..youll crack the block if you boost it no doubt... ls vtecs run pretty good with turbo..but ZC blocks are by far way stronger than both.. my ZC ran 12.204 at the track @ 12 psi, stock internals... if anything just get eagle rods and arp head studs.. maybe a new head gasket too...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ILoveMyED6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont listen to these guys man, no offense, b20 blocks are thin like tissue paper..youll crack the block if you boost it no doubt... ls vtecs run pretty good with turbo..but ZC blocks are by far way stronger than both.. my ZC ran 12.204 at the track @ 12 psi, stock internals... if anything just get eagle rods and arp head studs.. maybe a new head gasket too...</TD></TR></TABLE>

not an expert on this stuff, but unless u have actually done the swap urself i wouldnt be putting the b20 down, its just all in the build and tune that makes the engine what it is. and yea, i dont know about that stock zc running at 12 psi and it didnt go.

 

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not an expert on this stuff, but unless u have actually done the swap urself i wouldnt be putting the b20 down, its just all in the build and tune that makes the engine what it is. and yea, i dont know about that stock zc running at 12 psi and it didnt go.</TD></TR></TABLE>
tuning is your friend

 

go check out http://www.thezcr.com there are a few guys there pushing big numbers. And if you are looking to go b series I would look at a b18 block before the b20. The b18 seems more reliable and has thicker cylinder walls than the b20. Just my 2 cents.

Ralphie

 

I think I mite buy me a ZC block if anything FOR STARTERS...is cheaper and at the same time I can put the same quality of work into it N get big numbers. I would throw a turbo onto the stock motor and run at low boost BUT i dont know what the internals can handle bein the fact that I juss got the car about a month ago...but no matter wha i'm deffinately buildin a JDM sleeper no matter wha motor I go with lol

 

i have seen many zc motors boosted putting out around 200 hp with stock internals

 

if you're gonna build something to boost, build a ******* b20 or b18.
dont waste youe time building a 1.6 liter you wont get no tq even with boost.
and they cost about the same to build anyways,
and it also much easyer to find a B series turbo kit for cheap then a ZC.
thats my opinion

 

sweet its good to see some numbers on zc turbos by the way man what lsd on what tranny are u running or were u running? im working on my own zc turbo but im really hoping for some big numbers. jg engine dynamics sleeved the block for me and a local machine shop ported and polished the head for me ive also got wiseco pistons and scat rods jg is the place to go for major zc support. im also doin the obd1 thing to run a p75. im a little hesitant on what tunning to use though i was strongly leaning towards hondata any other suggestions. zc all the way

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by i hate my ZC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you're gonna build something to boost, build a ******* b20 or b18.
dont waste youe time building a 1.6 liter you wont get no tq even with boost.
and they cost about the same to build anyways,
and it also much easyer to find a B series turbo kit for cheap then a ZC.
thats my opinion</TD></TR></TABLE>
Your opinion is so very far from true or correct.
And buildind a ZC turbo kit is the same as building a SOHC turbo kit, neither is easier than the other.

 

I think there is a dude by the name of liam821 on here with a turbo zc. If I recall correctly he is making upwards of 350whp?


Modified by boostedb16a3 at 6:44 PM 3/4/2006

 

all my internals R very stock rite now eccept for upgraded camshafts but i'm deffinately workin up something viciously special....i'ma look into a nice afforable turbo to throw on my ZC and run about 4 or 5 lbs. of boost...i'll B comfortable wit dat for awhile...

 

imo if your gona turbo something turbo a z6 or a d15b vtec y8 somethign of that nature... thay are way easier and and less expencive (when i say easy i mean clearance wise, and less expenice i meen if you throw a rod or something to that nature)

you guys are gona hat me but imo dohc zc's are a waste of money they are the ugly ducklings of honda motors with the exception of the sohc zc that has many interchangeable parts with other honda motors, for example if you need to replace the block or head you can find one easier

if your gona try and squeeze a kit in a little bay like your car with a dohc you might as well turbo a b18a b18b somethign of that nature that is a better platform for 400+ whp and not ro mention has way more tranny and gearing options

imo also the dohc zc's are way over rated

 

O M F G,ok will some of you please go read in the forced induction,or drag racing forum and realize that boost is just a measure of restriction,it doesnt matter if i run 8lbs of boost or 20lbs of ******* boost to make 250whp,if it takes 20lbs to do so it just means that your head flows like ****!!and your setup is very inefficiant.i used to 15psi with a 60trim turbo on ls teg,and it was tuned right so it never blew up!sorry about the rant im just done with people going holy crap your running 12psi on a stock sohc!!the zc motor weather it be sohc or dohc can both be easly turbo'd and can both handle 250whp on stock internals, if it is tuned good,go check plenty of people are doing it.just remember to make power with boost not timing on those motors just my .02cents

 

I run a dohc zc on 10lbs daily and I make 236whp and 184wtq (dynojet numbers). I have been driving this car for almost a year now and have never had any issues. Like the rest said tuning is key to having a healthy motor. I run crome pro on my setup.

 

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my target hp is around 230 n up those r nice numbers. im putin my kit together. could u give details on ur set-up? and people say 1.6's cant make torque even with boost. what does that look like " I Hate My ZC" ?????? what kind of times r u running in the 1/4? more details plz. maybe u can help me piece my kit together

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM_ZC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I plan on turboing my ZC down the road but I need to build up my block first. I was looking to buy a ZC block and build it up to be able to with stand about 300 whp but i'm also wondering if I should just get awhole new ZC and work on the whole thing and possibly keep the old motor as a back up maybe just incase the new one blows for one reason or another ....but what do you all think..i need some feedback</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would get forged pistons and rods for 300whp..Ive seen in person stock dseries with over 300whp but they dont seem to last..So I would do forged pistons and rods,t3/t04e turbo,and good fuel management and tuning..

 

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my target hp is around 230 n up those r nice numbers. im putin my kit together. could u give details on ur set-up? and people say 1.6's cant make torque even with boost.</TD></TR></TABLE>
http://www.styleandspeed.com/2...2.wmv
LurkerS8 vid, very nice setup