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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 09:40 PM
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Default 13in Ra-1 or A032r soft ?

Both of them are rated to 149 and both are DOT approved. the advans come highly recommended but no one locally I've met has used the 13in RA-1's.

These will see heavy street use so they will be unshaved, right now impartial to the advans due to the reduced sidewall height over the Toyo's. There are being mounted on 13x7.5in Lensos I picked up today but will be transfered to some 8in wide rims when I get them.

These will see tracks in so cal as much as I can afford, and several times they will be ran close to there maximum rating

specs for both

215/50 VR13
84V SL Soft Compound 60 A A
1091 lbs.
44 psi
6/32"
18 lbs. 6-7.5"
7"
8.5"
7.8"
21.5"
1091

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205/60 VR13
Load Rating 86
Traction AA
Temperature A
Performance COMPETITION
Tread Depth 8
Rim Width (Min/Max) 5 - 7.5
Section Width 8.2
Overall Diameter 22.7
Rim Protector No
Max PSI 44
RPM 970
Measuring Rim Width 6
Static Load Radius 10
Sidewall Type BW
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Modified by suavacito at 10:06 AM 2/26/2006
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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 10:05 PM
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Default Re: 13in Ra-1 or A032r soft ? (suavacito)

i've run on both....probably would go with ao32r's if daily driving....

ao32's get nasty when low tread....especially in the wet!!

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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 10:13 PM
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Default Re: 13in Ra-1 or A032r soft ? (chad)

did you use hard or soft compounds ?
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Old Feb 26, 2006 | 08:46 AM
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Since when did Toyo make a 215/50-13?
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Old Feb 26, 2006 | 02:18 PM
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If you had done a search, you would have found this topic which answers your question:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=499552

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Zephyr-The Subaru Guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Since when did Toyo make a 215/50-13? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Read:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by suavacito &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">toyo

205/60 VR13</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Feb 26, 2006 | 08:15 PM
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I did a search and you post has nothing to do with 13in tires, and to be honest it was very short and wandered around hard compounds, michelins and price in the few responses which is hardly deffinitave. I have toyos in 15inch now and I've used Advans in the past - but that doesn't mean there the same in 13in which I understand have a tendancy to get cooked alot easier and might be the reason for th 149 max v rating instead of the over 149 z rating.

Also if you noticed in my first post I corrected it after zephyr posted as for some reason the size wasn't there
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Old Feb 26, 2006 | 08:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by suavacito &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I did a search and you post has nothing to do with 13in tires</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ken wasnt replying to you.
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 07:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by suavacito &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also if you noticed in my first post I corrected it after zephyr posted as for some reason the size wasn't there</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not true. You corrected your post on 2/26 at 10:06 a.m. and zephyr posted at 11:46 a.m., an hour and 40 minutes after your post was edited.
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 03:59 PM
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huh it says 9:46. I only edited after he posted anyway do you have any experiences with these tires they won't be available for another week.
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 04:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by suavacito &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">huh it says 9:46. I only edited after he posted</TD></TR></TABLE>

Maybe it adjusts the time for time zones in the header above the post, but not in the message where it shows the time a post was edited...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by suavacito &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anyway</TD></TR></TABLE>

anyway

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by suavacito &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do you have any experiences with these tires they won't be available for another week.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, I've driven both of these tires on the track. They're quite similar to each other - excellent dry grip (like any R compound track tire), decent wet grip (for a track tire, not as good as street tires, of course), etc. The RA-1 is slightly stickier, the A032R lasts slightly longer, but the differences aren't huge.
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 05:44 PM
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the only expeirience I've had so far with them is the hard compound. Since I would like to run the soft compound and I understand 13s heat up faster I really would perfer some input but tire rack reps say it should'nt be much of a problem with my car weighing so little.
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