im thinkin around to put some upgrades on my 89 hatch to make it run mid 14s

this is what it already has:
ex motor
obx exhaust
dc sports short shifter
cam
cam gear
aem cold air intake
dc sports header
hi flow cat

it runs a 15 flat as of now

i was just gonna do intake mani but since i gotta take everything else out i plan to put:

skunk 2 throtle body
venom intake mani
venom fi performance fuel rail
and venom super hi flow fuel injectors
and take my power steering out

do u think all this will throw me into the mid 14s?

if soo ill be happy, low to mid 14s is my goal for now
and is it worth me replacing all those?

 

Why dont you just grab a Zex kit for less dollars then those parts and run 13's?That throttle body manifold combo will def shave a few tenths off but the fuel stuff is not needed just wasting money.Then save some money for a OBX diff and some small slicks

 

so basically it really wont do much? i was gonna get a dp 100 shot but i dont wanna blow my motor, all though u can pick em up for like 100 bucks

 

I would've just saved up for a gsr motor

 

which ex motor? 88-91 or 92+

 

its the one with the honda on the valve cover

 

It will def help[mani+t.b] but you need to ask yourself is the cost worth the gain?If you dont want to go much faster than your above goal then great but if you want to lay down some great times your money would be better spent elsewhere like suggested.I would not run a 100 shot on a stock D16 that is really pushing it.55-65hp is good and 75 with some timing pulled and a little fuel pressure pump to be safe.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pgmatt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It will def help[mani+t.b] but you need to ask yourself is the cost worth the gain?If you dont want to go much faster than your above goal then great but if you want to lay down some great times your money would be better spent elsewhere like suggested.I would not run a 100 shot on a stock D16 that is really pushing it.55-65hp is good and 75 with some timing pulled and a little fuel pressure pump to be safe.</TD></TR></TABLE>


You can run more then 100shot on a D series. Its true, people have done it, and have done it the right way and not blown up their motors. A large majority of it boils back to the tuning.... Contact 1700 and dropping for more info on running that large of a shot of n20 on your motor, he'll be able to tell you what you need to do to make it happen, make power, go fast, and most importantly run safely....

Good Luck...

 

I agree that a 100 shot is doable but for the average guy who is getting a simple to install dry kit like a Zex etc 75hp is a good stopping point.

 

GSR swap in an complete EF Si runs mid to low 14s...do that instead.

 

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Good call there dirt cheap too

 

Roughly $2500 at the most if you do your own work...which is pretty simple.

He probably spent that much to do all that work to a EX engine.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ludesrv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Roughly $2500 at the most if you do your own work...which is pretty simple.

He probably spent that much to do all that work to a EX engine.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Exactly hes already spend the money, he only wants a little more.
He could spend all that swapping for a bit more or just get a bottle and be happy?

2500 +
500 +
same results what would you pick?

 

GSR has more potential in the long run. NOSing an engine is easy and cheap...but then you want more and more then you blow the motor and you are back to square one. When you have a GSR you can turbo it, NA build it. NOS it if you want. I have a video of a 14.1 second GSR powered EF civic Si with the basic I/H/E.

All I need is a host.

 

what cam is in there? is the cam gear adjusted at all? if you want a bigger throttle body, just locate an OEM 60mm b-series throttle body, or send your off to be bored. there are better intake manifolds out there than venom. the bigger fuel injectors won't do anything for ya. and what 89 hatch do you have that has power steering? what ECU are you running? try to find out the engine code and more help will be able to be given.

 

Click here to watch Stock-GSR-powered-91-Civic-Si-vs-Built-B16A4-2000-Civic-SiR

My brother's EF before the full GSR build. On stock bore/stroke we hit 218whp NA TUNED and pulled some 12.3@108mph on slicks and gutted car.

Currently going B18 to B22 .

Oh and incase you can read, the time is 14.35.

 

If your going to swap to a bigger throtle bodie and a new intake manifold then your going to need a cam too otherwise its pointless. And if your going to run on a bottle then deffinatly dont go with a dry kit, and i would not go with zex either for that matter. Spend a little more money and get a dp NOS kit. the 100 shot from zex is the equivelent of the 75 shot from NOS, but if you dont go NOS because of the extra cost at least dont go with a dry because of the cost factor too. A dry kit is the fastest way to say goodbye to your motor.

 

why not just grab some drag radials, ive seen people drop half a second or more with slicks

 

what tranny are you running right now?
hopefully not the ex tranny...
get some itb's thats the best way ive seen to get some power out of a n/a sohc

 

sell all that **** and get a gsr engine.

 

alright this is what i know about my car, i just bought it so theres things hes told me and things i know

Things I know :
header
hi flow cat
exhaust
cold air intake
short shifter
EX motor
stage 3 clutch

things he said it had
cam
adjustable cam gear
p28 ecu

So as for the ecu question he said p28 and when i look it up thats an expensive *** ecu

somone said something about a b serious throttle body? Will that bolt up right? i thought d and b cudnt be interchanged


and the tranny is an 88-91 civic si tranny, i had an si hatch that i gutted and when the guy who had my car blew the tranny out i sold him my tranny so as far as i know it still has the si tranny.

i didnt pull the valve cover off to check cam and **** cuz i didnt wanna spend the money to replace the gasket. im a lil tight on money right now but in 2 weeks ill be good

 

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i agree.a 75 shot would be perfect for ur motor setup