So I'm driving yesterday, and I notice I have no Vtec. I figured, since Vtec operates off of oil pressure, that my oil might be low. I swing into the Jiffy Lube my friend works at, and I decide to give it an oil change.

BTW, having a friend who works at Jiffy Lube is great. It makes changing my oil so much easier.

Anyways, I change the oil and filter, and everything looks ok. Then I start the car, and oil starts pissing out of the engine. Not good. When I shut off the car, it stops pissing oil.

It looks like it's coming from behind the bottom end of the timing belt cover. Here's my question: Is there a seal back there? Like a timing belt drive shaft seal that could have blown?

Any (logical) ideas would be greatly appreciated.

 

Front main seal, mine did almost the same thing oil everywhere.

 

i had this problem awhile back. Kept thinking it was a power steering line broke. It ended up being this service bolt on the back of the block that was shooting oil everywhere. It was close to the timing cover.

u got the jdm motor right?

 

I say front balance shaft seal..

 

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u got the jdm motor right?</TD></TR></TABLE>

no, it's a USDM '93 Vtec. Not the most common of Vtec preludes...

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I think it's the front main seal, too. It's behind the timing cover and the balance shaft...

more info to follow

 

jack the car up...clean everything off...get some goggles and have a friend crank the car for you. Meanwhile, look for where it is leaking

 

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most likely thats what it is....obd1 h22s dont have the seal retainer....

 

balance shaft seal poppn out im bettn, retainer is only $3 and it comes with an oil dipstick o-ring. Use thread sealent on the bolts.

 

http://www.autosafety.org/HondaOilSeal.pdf Service Bulletin for Front Balancer shaft oil seal retainer kit

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cottonwoodz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> http://www.autosafety.org/HondaOilSeal.pdf Service Bulletin for Front Balancer shaft oil seal retainer kit </TD></TR></TABLE>

wow. well, I guess that answers it. Too bad it expired in '03...******' Honda...

more info to follow...

 

update:

front balance shaft oil seal looks to be the culprit. It wouldn't be so bad if all I had to do was install the kit. Unfortunately, the seal backed itself out, so now my timing belt and balance belt are oil-soaked. Need to replace those now, too. Gonna take me the better part of the weekend to replace, I think.

I guess this could serve as a heads-up to anyone else w/ an H22...get the kit and replace it ASAP. The local Honda dealer/rapist still has the kits in stock.

 

does this relate to jdm h22's also? if so i need to know asap so i can order the parts i have a week b4 i do my swap.

 

I would replace It before you install your H22. When you put a new timming belt in..

 

part number is?
06923-p0a-306? i checked and could not find for that or poa-306?

 

http://www.hondaautomotivepart...83%29


part #13 is the replacement Bracket
You might aswell get #17 Timming Belt, and #23 Auto Tensioner

Ohh, and dont forget the waterpump......

 

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part #13 is the replacement Bracket
You might aswell get #17 Timming Belt, and #23 Auto Tensioner

Ohh, and dont forget the waterpump......
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I already replaced the timing belt, tensioner, and water pump when I bought the car last August. I believe very strongly in the value of PMs. That's the bitch of it, though. I just replaced the T-belt and now I have to do it again

 

a cam seal could also cause this problem, too. It did on my car and the oil pump gasket o-ring thingy was leaking too. I talked to a honda tech here and they said honda put a channel in the timing belt cover to channel oil leaks and such that come from the cam seals.

 

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it's not the cam seal, it's the front balance shaft oil seal...I checked.