Just stumbled across something new from Goodyear...
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Just stumbled across something new from Goodyear...
http://www.racegoodyear.com/pd...t.pdf
They've got the two common sizes we like now. Maybe they'll be a viable competitor to the Hoosier...maybe not.
Scott, who probably won't use up all the tires he already has this year...
They've got the two common sizes we like now. Maybe they'll be a viable competitor to the Hoosier...maybe not.
Scott, who probably won't use up all the tires he already has this year...
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Re: Just stumbled across something new from Goodyear... (RR98ITR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RR98ITR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> http://www.racegoodyear.com/pd...t.pdf
They've got the two common sizes we like now. Maybe they'll be a viable competitor to the Hoosier...maybe not.
Scott, who probably won't use up all the tires he already has this year... </TD></TR></TABLE>
When I read the title, I thought the something "new" from Goodyear would be a new hydrogen powered hybrid blimp or something. But, no, it's another tire to choose from - to test - to find out if it sucks or rocks. I guess more information is better than less, wouldn't you say Scott?
They've got the two common sizes we like now. Maybe they'll be a viable competitor to the Hoosier...maybe not.
Scott, who probably won't use up all the tires he already has this year... </TD></TR></TABLE>
When I read the title, I thought the something "new" from Goodyear would be a new hydrogen powered hybrid blimp or something. But, no, it's another tire to choose from - to test - to find out if it sucks or rocks. I guess more information is better than less, wouldn't you say Scott?
Re: Just stumbled across something new from Goodyear... (RR98ITR)
Scott, Goodyear's had a DOT racing radial for decades. They were my favorite tire back in the late 80's/early 90's, and in fact their GS-CS was the tire I ran on the NX in Showroom Stock.
The only real "new" thing here is that they're re-decided to build them in sizes for the compact car racing market...and they will be my tire of choice for '06.
The only real "new" thing here is that they're re-decided to build them in sizes for the compact car racing market...and they will be my tire of choice for '06.
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Re: Just stumbled across something new from Goodyear... (Greg Amy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Greg Amy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...and they will be my tire of choice for '06.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Why? speed? durability? cost? sponsorship?
Why? speed? durability? cost? sponsorship?
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Re: Just stumbled across something new from Goodyear... (RR98ITR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RR98ITR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> http://www.racegoodyear.com/pd...t.pdf
They've got the two common sizes we like now. Maybe they'll be a viable competitor to the Hoosier...maybe not.
Scott, who probably won't use up all the tires he already has this year... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Hmmm... they're available in 5 sizes.... I think that qualifies them to be a NASA spec tire....
They've got the two common sizes we like now. Maybe they'll be a viable competitor to the Hoosier...maybe not.
Scott, who probably won't use up all the tires he already has this year... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Hmmm... they're available in 5 sizes.... I think that qualifies them to be a NASA spec tire....
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Re: Just stumbled across something new from Goodyear... (Greg Amy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Greg Amy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Scott, Goodyear's had a DOT racing radial for decades. They were my favorite tire back in the late 80's/early 90's, and in fact their GS-CS was the tire I ran on the NX in Showroom Stock.
The only real "new" thing here is that they're re-decided to build them in sizes for the compact car racing market...and they will be my tire of choice for '06.
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Greg,
Do you know for sure that beyond sizing that there's nothing new about the "RS"?
I never seriously considered the GS-CS because the only size that came close didn't come close enough, but think I remember hearing that in the first heat cycle at least that they were very good.
The biggest problem I ever heard from guys running Goodyears was that if there was rain they were screwed - they had nothing comparable to a Dirt Stocker.
Scott, who doesn't know who has the best DOT snow tire...now THAT's a Real Racer that has on the trailer a few sets of drys, a set of intermediates, set of floods, AND a set of snows...
The only real "new" thing here is that they're re-decided to build them in sizes for the compact car racing market...and they will be my tire of choice for '06.
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Greg,
Do you know for sure that beyond sizing that there's nothing new about the "RS"?
I never seriously considered the GS-CS because the only size that came close didn't come close enough, but think I remember hearing that in the first heat cycle at least that they were very good.
The biggest problem I ever heard from guys running Goodyears was that if there was rain they were screwed - they had nothing comparable to a Dirt Stocker.
Scott, who doesn't know who has the best DOT snow tire...now THAT's a Real Racer that has on the trailer a few sets of drys, a set of intermediates, set of floods, AND a set of snows...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jlucas »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why? speed? durability? cost? sponsorship?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Jereny, "sponsorship"? In IT? Don't I wish. I had a Goodyear contract back in the SSB days, but at the time I had the opportunity for a tire deal with pretty much anyone I chose. I chose Goodyear because it was a good company offering the best tire with the best support. I've heard comparable comments about them from people that are running them today.
For the icing, check the ARRC results for SM and see which cars ran which tires.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RR98ITR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do you know for sure that beyond sizing that there's nothing new about the "RS"?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Scott, I know just as much as you do about the technicals of the RS; it's a new tire. Which means, basically nothing. However, given Goodyear's history and corporate goals, they don't go into something just to place or show.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...the only size that came close didn't come close enough...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Which is why I've been running Hoosiers. However, given GY's announcement of new tires I have sold my 14" wheels and purchased 15" in preparation for the release of these tires. I, also, don't do this just to place or show.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...if there was rain they were screwed - they had nothing comparable to a Dirt Stocker.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Which is why I also have a set of Hoosier Dirt Stockers. We're not getting paid here, and as far as I know there aren't too many "tire contracts" in Improved Touring or Honda Challenge (if you've talked your way into one, I'd love to hear your techniques), so why feel compelled to only use one brand of tire? Pick the best of breed for each situation and run with it... - GA
Jereny, "sponsorship"? In IT? Don't I wish. I had a Goodyear contract back in the SSB days, but at the time I had the opportunity for a tire deal with pretty much anyone I chose. I chose Goodyear because it was a good company offering the best tire with the best support. I've heard comparable comments about them from people that are running them today.
For the icing, check the ARRC results for SM and see which cars ran which tires.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RR98ITR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do you know for sure that beyond sizing that there's nothing new about the "RS"?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Scott, I know just as much as you do about the technicals of the RS; it's a new tire. Which means, basically nothing. However, given Goodyear's history and corporate goals, they don't go into something just to place or show.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...the only size that came close didn't come close enough...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Which is why I've been running Hoosiers. However, given GY's announcement of new tires I have sold my 14" wheels and purchased 15" in preparation for the release of these tires. I, also, don't do this just to place or show.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...if there was rain they were screwed - they had nothing comparable to a Dirt Stocker.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Which is why I also have a set of Hoosier Dirt Stockers. We're not getting paid here, and as far as I know there aren't too many "tire contracts" in Improved Touring or Honda Challenge (if you've talked your way into one, I'd love to hear your techniques), so why feel compelled to only use one brand of tire? Pick the best of breed for each situation and run with it... - GA
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Re: Just stumbled across something new from Goodyear... (Greg Amy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Greg Amy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
.... However, given Goodyear's history and corporate goals, they don't go into something just to place or show.
.... given GY's announcement of new tires I have sold my 14" wheels and purchased 15" in preparation for the release of these tires. I, also, don't do this just to place or show.
- GA</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wow! That's faith. It's rare that I can generate that much. I hope you're right - Good Luck.
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...and as far as I know there aren't too many "tire contracts" in Improved Touring or Honda Challenge (if you've talked your way into one, I'd love to hear your techniques), so why feel compelled to only use one brand of tire? Pick the best of breed for each situation and run with it... - GA</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, not me. Other guys under other circumstances/obligations.
Scott, who is in this not just to show, place, or even win...I'm in it to...uh...to....er...nevermind.
.... However, given Goodyear's history and corporate goals, they don't go into something just to place or show.
.... given GY's announcement of new tires I have sold my 14" wheels and purchased 15" in preparation for the release of these tires. I, also, don't do this just to place or show.
- GA</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wow! That's faith. It's rare that I can generate that much. I hope you're right - Good Luck.
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...and as far as I know there aren't too many "tire contracts" in Improved Touring or Honda Challenge (if you've talked your way into one, I'd love to hear your techniques), so why feel compelled to only use one brand of tire? Pick the best of breed for each situation and run with it... - GA</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, not me. Other guys under other circumstances/obligations.
Scott, who is in this not just to show, place, or even win...I'm in it to...uh...to....er...nevermind.
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Re: Just stumbled across something new from Goodyear... (RR98ITR)
I wouldn't doubt these would be competitive with the 710's and new Hoosier's. It seems like the GS-CS's were quite popular in the AS and T1 ranks for the past few years and I assume those guys could run Hoosier's or Kumho's if they wanted. I guess I could be wrong though.
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Re: Just stumbled across something new from Goodyear... (Mr Hammond)
I have never run the Goodyear DOT tires over the years simply based on budget. I have known a lot of guys who loved them over the years and no one I ever spoke to who used them didn't like them for performance, just that they were always notably more expensive than Hoosiers and generally similar and maybe sometimes even better in performance and wore quickly too.
The Goodyear's downfall was always price, not performance. Rarely did you ever see a Goodyear shod guy not at the very fast end of the field but it did take a financial commitment to do so. When guys started needing to balance budget vs. highest level performance, that is when most folks (myself included) ran Hoosiers. Goodyear was always much higher level performance than the Toyo, Kumho, etc. level competition but those were much lower on the cost and performance compromise chart. I agree with Greg that a new Goodyear is not likely to be a mid-packer at all, but it won't be mid-budgeter either.
The Goodyear's downfall was always price, not performance. Rarely did you ever see a Goodyear shod guy not at the very fast end of the field but it did take a financial commitment to do so. When guys started needing to balance budget vs. highest level performance, that is when most folks (myself included) ran Hoosiers. Goodyear was always much higher level performance than the Toyo, Kumho, etc. level competition but those were much lower on the cost and performance compromise chart. I agree with Greg that a new Goodyear is not likely to be a mid-packer at all, but it won't be mid-budgeter either.
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Re: Just stumbled across something new from Goodyear... (CRX Lee)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRX Lee »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">..."blah, blah, blah"...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Lee,
"What I seem to be hearing is that maybe a spec tire can save money after all!"
Scott, who couldn't help it...but thinks that the cost of racing has been going up ever since the days when cavemen raced boulders and protests were administered with clubs..."Dammit Goodyear! We're just a bunch of ignant cavemen!"...
Lee,
"What I seem to be hearing is that maybe a spec tire can save money after all!"
Scott, who couldn't help it...but thinks that the cost of racing has been going up ever since the days when cavemen raced boulders and protests were administered with clubs..."Dammit Goodyear! We're just a bunch of ignant cavemen!"...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RR98ITR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">"What I seem to be hearing is that maybe a spec tire can save money after all!"</TD></TR></TABLE>
Duno if you really want to get into a debate on spec tires, but the base premise of that statement can be flawed.
What folks fail to realize is that ANY and ALL series are, defacto, spec tire series, regardless of if the sanctioning body lists a specific tire to use. Improved Touring is a "spec tire" series: to win you need Hoosier. Thus, Hoosier is the spec tire for anyone wishing to win. On the other hand, you have the OPTION of running a slower tire if you want to save money...
A "control tire" (like the Brits say) can save competitors money, but only if the cheapest one is selected by the sanctioning body. What would happen if, for example, the Hoosier or Goodyear was selected as the control tire for the series? How would that save anyone money? By controlling the tire to the lowest common denominaotr you bring everyone down to a specific least expensive tire; then and only then can there be a viable cost savings.
If the Goodyear proves to be the superior tire (or Hoosier continues to be), then it will become the "must have" to win, thus the latest "spec tire" for the series; but that is not really what you mean, is it...?
Duno if you really want to get into a debate on spec tires, but the base premise of that statement can be flawed.
What folks fail to realize is that ANY and ALL series are, defacto, spec tire series, regardless of if the sanctioning body lists a specific tire to use. Improved Touring is a "spec tire" series: to win you need Hoosier. Thus, Hoosier is the spec tire for anyone wishing to win. On the other hand, you have the OPTION of running a slower tire if you want to save money...
A "control tire" (like the Brits say) can save competitors money, but only if the cheapest one is selected by the sanctioning body. What would happen if, for example, the Hoosier or Goodyear was selected as the control tire for the series? How would that save anyone money? By controlling the tire to the lowest common denominaotr you bring everyone down to a specific least expensive tire; then and only then can there be a viable cost savings.
If the Goodyear proves to be the superior tire (or Hoosier continues to be), then it will become the "must have" to win, thus the latest "spec tire" for the series; but that is not really what you mean, is it...?
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Re: Just stumbled across something new from Goodyear... (Greg Amy)
Greg,
The only aspect of that debate that interests me is the ridiculous - hence my trying to be funny. No I'm not serious.
But - I really like your take on it. Makes sense.
Scott, who when he read that the new Goodyear RS has "premium sidewall styling" thought to himself "this could just be the new Must Have tire!"...
The only aspect of that debate that interests me is the ridiculous - hence my trying to be funny. No I'm not serious.
But - I really like your take on it. Makes sense.
Scott, who when he read that the new Goodyear RS has "premium sidewall styling" thought to himself "this could just be the new Must Have tire!"...
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Re: Just stumbled across something new from Goodyear... (RR98ITR)
I asked my track tire supplier about them, and he said, "What I know is that the tire was suppose to come out last year, but they couldn't get it out of the molds. So it never came out. As for this year, I haven't heard."
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Re: Just stumbled across something new from Goodyear... (nsxtasy)
a local SM guy got a prototype set last year and proceeded to win on saturday and place 2nd on sunday. he was usually a front-runner, but had never wond a race before. i think it's safe to say he liked them.
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Re: Just stumbled across something new from Goodyear... (CRX Lee)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRX Lee »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... I agree with Greg that a new Goodyear is not likely to be a mid-packer at all, but it won't be mid-budgeter either.</TD></TR></TABLE>
according to the pdf linked, the 205-50/15 MSRP is $185. Same size in a Hoosier from TireRack is $182. close enough for me...
according to the pdf linked, the 205-50/15 MSRP is $185. Same size in a Hoosier from TireRack is $182. close enough for me...
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Re: Just stumbled across something new from Goodyear... (RR98ITR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RR98ITR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Lee,
"What I seem to be hearing is that maybe a spec tire can save money after all!"</TD></TR></TABLE>
I can't exactly comment on which parts you didn't care for because you changed the text but I think there is some distance between suggesting that not everyone buys the most expensive tire on the market even if it is really very good and suggesting a spec tire to hold costs down. I meant to say the GS-CS was a very good tire if you had the budget so one could expect good results from the new one. I am one of the last people who would suggest a spec tires in a class that is not already dominated by nearly everything else being specified. I don't see that buying the $150 tires because they were very competitive is a major character flaw when there were $175 tires on the market as well as $100 tires too.
Maybe your life only allows with the choicest cuts of meat, only 5 star accomodations, and private jet travel but some of us sodden masses must periodically make a compromise to a slightly lower in the name of value with performance. Just because we might enjoy a nice T-bone with a glass of good wine instead of accepting only a Filet Mignon and Dom Perignon, doesn't mean that we are ready to doom everyone to stew beef and Mad Dog.
I thought that $365 million PowerBall winner was in Nebraska and not Oregon. With that kind of budget, I think I'd give the new Goodyears a shot if they fit whatever serious ride I was enjoying from my vast collection.
"What I seem to be hearing is that maybe a spec tire can save money after all!"</TD></TR></TABLE>
I can't exactly comment on which parts you didn't care for because you changed the text but I think there is some distance between suggesting that not everyone buys the most expensive tire on the market even if it is really very good and suggesting a spec tire to hold costs down. I meant to say the GS-CS was a very good tire if you had the budget so one could expect good results from the new one. I am one of the last people who would suggest a spec tires in a class that is not already dominated by nearly everything else being specified. I don't see that buying the $150 tires because they were very competitive is a major character flaw when there were $175 tires on the market as well as $100 tires too.
Maybe your life only allows with the choicest cuts of meat, only 5 star accomodations, and private jet travel but some of us sodden masses must periodically make a compromise to a slightly lower in the name of value with performance. Just because we might enjoy a nice T-bone with a glass of good wine instead of accepting only a Filet Mignon and Dom Perignon, doesn't mean that we are ready to doom everyone to stew beef and Mad Dog.
I thought that $365 million PowerBall winner was in Nebraska and not Oregon. With that kind of budget, I think I'd give the new Goodyears a shot if they fit whatever serious ride I was enjoying from my vast collection.
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Re: Just stumbled across something new from Goodyear... (CRX Lee)
Leeeeee!
If you find yourself among the "sodden masses" I can only wish that some of the soddening was because you got the joke and laffed your *** off - but I guess not.
Yes, it's true...I was a little liberal in my paraphrasing of what you wrote...sorry.
Scott, who...dammit - is hearing Lee in his head again: "blah...blah...blah"....now I hear the warden from Shawshank: "...cast you down with the soddomites...with their beef stew, mad dog, and Kumhos"....
If you find yourself among the "sodden masses" I can only wish that some of the soddening was because you got the joke and laffed your *** off - but I guess not.
Yes, it's true...I was a little liberal in my paraphrasing of what you wrote...sorry.
Scott, who...dammit - is hearing Lee in his head again: "blah...blah...blah"....now I hear the warden from Shawshank: "...cast you down with the soddomites...with their beef stew, mad dog, and Kumhos"....
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Re: Just stumbled across something new from Goodyear... (RR98ITR)
EAGLE RS
-- Nice name... but "Eagle Type R" woulda grabbed my attention faster.
Construction for high performance vehicles
-- Damnit. I drive an economy car.
Compound for all tracks and conditions
-- I drive in all tracks and conditions, excellent!
Premium sidewall styling
-- No Type R sticker?
-- Nice name... but "Eagle Type R" woulda grabbed my attention faster.
Construction for high performance vehicles
-- Damnit. I drive an economy car.
Compound for all tracks and conditions
-- I drive in all tracks and conditions, excellent!
Premium sidewall styling
-- No Type R sticker?
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Re: Just stumbled across something new from Goodyear... (Chris F)
A blast from the (Realtime) past (circa 1998):
"Body: Acura Integra Type-R
Engine, displacement: Tranverse, front engine, 1.8 liter
Valvetrain: 16V DOHC
Horsepower: +200HP
Torque: +135 ft.lbs.
Drivetrain layout: FWD with Torsen Limited Slip
Gearbox: 5 manual transmission
Tires: Goodyear GS-CS
Suspension: Eibach Coil-Over Racing Springs, Mugen adjustable racing shock absorbers, custom rear adjustable anti-sway bars
Wheels/Tires: 16"x7" NSX Wheels w/225-50-16 Front/Rear
Brakes: NSX Rotors and Calipers
Fuel: VP 110 Octane Racing Fuel "
If you look hard, you can see the Goodyear lettering.
I remember that Mike Galati told me he thought they were going backwards when they changed away from those Goodyears, and he thought year over year that race cars were supposed to get faster, not slower.
I think I will also not be able to wear out all the tires I already have for this year and try something new (4 new Yoko 032R-S for the rain, 4 new Michelin Sport Cups and 3 new Hoosiers plus 4 OK ones). Maybe next year.
"Body: Acura Integra Type-R
Engine, displacement: Tranverse, front engine, 1.8 liter
Valvetrain: 16V DOHC
Horsepower: +200HP
Torque: +135 ft.lbs.
Drivetrain layout: FWD with Torsen Limited Slip
Gearbox: 5 manual transmission
Tires: Goodyear GS-CS
Suspension: Eibach Coil-Over Racing Springs, Mugen adjustable racing shock absorbers, custom rear adjustable anti-sway bars
Wheels/Tires: 16"x7" NSX Wheels w/225-50-16 Front/Rear
Brakes: NSX Rotors and Calipers
Fuel: VP 110 Octane Racing Fuel "
If you look hard, you can see the Goodyear lettering.
I remember that Mike Galati told me he thought they were going backwards when they changed away from those Goodyears, and he thought year over year that race cars were supposed to get faster, not slower.
I think I will also not be able to wear out all the tires I already have for this year and try something new (4 new Yoko 032R-S for the rain, 4 new Michelin Sport Cups and 3 new Hoosiers plus 4 OK ones). Maybe next year.
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Re: Just stumbled across something new from Goodyear... (descartesfool)
Makes me weepy.
And...just in case you hadn't noticed - they ARE going faster now.
Which reminds me of something Taz said one day about more speed not necessarily making WC better. Notice that the fields are smaller and the privateer count is way down.
Scott, who wouldn't be all that crazy about 225/50-16's though...
And...just in case you hadn't noticed - they ARE going faster now.
Which reminds me of something Taz said one day about more speed not necessarily making WC better. Notice that the fields are smaller and the privateer count is way down.
Scott, who wouldn't be all that crazy about 225/50-16's though...
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Re: Just stumbled across something new from Goodyear... (RR98ITR)
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And...just in case you hadn't noticed - they ARE going faster now.
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Now that might have a little more to do with what the piston is doing than what the tire is doing! (Remember what a wise man said: races are won in the straights)
And as for weeping, I still have old tapes of Pierre and Mike going at it tooth and nail, bumper to bumper in their ITR's, and it has just not been as good since. But they are running about 6 seconds faster per lap now in their 2.4L TSX's at Mosport than they used to in their comparatively lo-buck 1.8L ITR's. Nothing quite like increasing your cubic inches by 33%
And...just in case you hadn't noticed - they ARE going faster now.
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Now that might have a little more to do with what the piston is doing than what the tire is doing! (Remember what a wise man said: races are won in the straights)
And as for weeping, I still have old tapes of Pierre and Mike going at it tooth and nail, bumper to bumper in their ITR's, and it has just not been as good since. But they are running about 6 seconds faster per lap now in their 2.4L TSX's at Mosport than they used to in their comparatively lo-buck 1.8L ITR's. Nothing quite like increasing your cubic inches by 33%
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Re: Just stumbled across something new from Goodyear... (descartesfool)
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Now that might have a little more to do with what the piston is doing than what the tire is doing! (Remember what a wise man said: races are won in the straights)..... Nothing quite like increasing your cubic inches by 33%</TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh Yeah....or increasing inlet pressure.
Scott, who thinks it's funny how old he is...how he feels like he's getting old...and how the good old days are as recent as 1998...that's funny isn't it?
Now that might have a little more to do with what the piston is doing than what the tire is doing! (Remember what a wise man said: races are won in the straights)..... Nothing quite like increasing your cubic inches by 33%</TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh Yeah....or increasing inlet pressure.
Scott, who thinks it's funny how old he is...how he feels like he's getting old...and how the good old days are as recent as 1998...that's funny isn't it?
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