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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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Alright - my taillights and interior lights do not work. I think its vinenuero's fault. I haven't done anything to my car - so this problem just kinda POPPED up!

I know they are in the same circuit - and for the record, the fuse keeps blowing. Knowing this, I 'assumed' something was grounding out. I took out my radio a while back, but I left the harness in...so I thought maybe a power wire was touching metal somewhere. I removed the harness, but nothing.

The fuse 'small light' is the protector for the circuit. This fuse requires a 20A.
I put in a 30A just to see if something would start smoking, but the only thing that started to smell was the fuse itself. So, knowing that - I don't think anything in my trunk nor behind the dash is grounding out.

Does anyone think something could actually be wrong with the fuse box itself?.... For the record, I have the ABS relay out - and one of the ABS fuses.

Once again, I haven't done anything to the car at all. Tomorrow, i'm going to check the switch - i guess thats a good place to start.

Give me some suggestions.
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 05:01 PM
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My car did this exact thing. Go check your headlights. YOu know the parking corner light?
Check to make sure all that stuff is plugged in. Fixed my problem. The fuse is blowing cause wire is grounding somewere. But u know that. Check the parking lights though..that was my problem.
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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Hm. So a corner light can cause another circuit to blow? i'll check that in the morning - that is a definate possibility then.
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 05:23 PM
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LOL. Did you check taillight fuse in the footwell? What all is on this circuit?

roller, is now making me wonder whether my water in trunk and burnt taillight fuse is a seperate issue bc the previous seems to have had hids and jdm fogs. He's replaced them with stock headlights (the wiring's exposed) and cheap foglights that blink in place of the turn signals.

My question is this then....how can something like the parking lights cause only the other circuit to go. Shouldn't it affect it's own circuit too?
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 04:35 AM
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Bump for a lost cause.........

The corner lights weren't pinched or anything. From what I can see, nothing is being pinched. Lets get some more suggestions - i'm going to work on it a little after I get off work, but its cold as **** outside right now.

I put back in the 30A fuse to see if it'll start to smell, but it popped. I need to find a little circuit breaker so i don't have to keep buying fuses.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 09:57 AM
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.......I KNOW someone other than us hhas had this problem before. Throw up suggestions people - don't care how stupid they are. Anything will help right about now.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 10:22 AM
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I gots the same problem yo.

My driver's side breaklamp and turn signal are out and my inetrior lights say "expletive you!"

They sorta worked whenever they felt like, but now they just don't turn on at all.

***gets in the boat****
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 10:30 AM
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my friend with a 5g had this problem and i couldnt figure it out for a while....his ended up being a problem with foglight wiring....i think

do you have an alarm hooked up to that circuit by chance??
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 10:59 AM
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Nope. I don't have anything electrical aftermarket on the car(besides the hondata ). Thats why i'm so stumped - this **** just happened out of no where. Kinda pisses me off. I'm painting my car today, but i'll try to take a look at everything later on. i'm just going to start moving some wires around - using zip ties and what not.

I'm also going to check out the actual tail lights to see if there's a problem. I had groceries in the trunk saturday night (when it happened), so maybe something happened. I took out all the carpet a while back - so some wires are exposed. I have some things in the trunk right now, so i'll clean it out and report back later.

hm. I think i'm going to make sure my wires on the ecu aren't pinched or anything. I made a video clip of my car yesterday, and I noticed it revved higher than 8k. I have the rev limiter set for 7600....so that was weird.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 11:14 AM
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when my tailight fuse went out, my interior lights and tailights went out. I had just got done wiring the 6x9's to the back of the cd player and i got metal to metal contact somehwere and it blew it. I fixed that metal contact, replaced the fuse and everything went back to normal.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 02:34 PM
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How's your troubleshooting coming along?

I was looking at the turn signals and headlight wiring today, and I don't see any exposed metal but the wiring is exposed. I'm thinking it might be that.

Today, my interior light finally blew. Before it was just the taillight fuse. The radio won't power on. The anti-theft light just keeps blinking now. Any ideas?
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 02:42 PM
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Man - its not going good. Uh, I did find a wire though - It is a power wire that i used for my a/f gauge. It was probably touching metal somewhere; however, when i put the fuse in now, it still blows. I think something happened to my hondata also - something is definately wrong with the fuel map now. I have to get my laptop back before I check that out. I think i'm going to pull the negative battery cable - to reset the ecu, and i'll put a new fuse in and try. For now, it keeps blowing.
I need a mini circuit breaker.

Good luck on your diagnosing. Do you think I would have to 'reset' something?
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 02:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheKINGPin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Man - its not going good. Uh, I did find a wire though - It is a power wire that i used for my a/f gauge. It was probably touching metal somewhere; however, when i put the fuse in now, it still blows. I think something happened to my hondata also - something is definately wrong with the fuel map now. I have to get my laptop back before I check that out. I think i'm going to pull the negative battery cable - to reset the ecu, and i'll put a new fuse in and try. For now, it keeps blowing.
I need a mini circuit breaker.

Good luck on your diagnosing. Do you think I would have to 'reset' something?</TD></TR></TABLE>

It's an electrical problem, not electronic, so I doubt resetting the ecu etc would do much. The hondata deal doesn't sound good. I've only had the car a day and am already dealing with electrical problems. I got it for 5900 so I'm going to have to suck it up and figure this out.

I don't understand why my radio went out now though. The clock radio fuse is fine.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 12:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheKINGPin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Give me some suggestions. </TD></TR></TABLE>Grow some *****.

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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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I had issues with popping that same fuse when i first got my car and it ended up being the drivers door dome light switch. I ended up replacing both door switches and i havent had a problem since.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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Any updates?

My taillight fuse isn't blowing anymore. Can't say the same about the 'interior lights' fuse though. The previous owner sure left a mess with the headlight and foglight/turn signal wiring. Right now, my overhead lights don't work and neither does my radio. Gonna look at it more this weekand.
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 03:30 AM
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Nope. I worked on it yesterday - i unplugged everything and the fuse still popped. I took out the entire middle section - no luck. I'm thinking its maybe one of the lights in the front of the car. So i'm going to check that out today. I made up my mind to gut my entire interior though. I'm going to do it big - gota buy a new car also though. So, if you're looking for anything in the interior (non-leather) make me an offer.

See, my parking lights up front(including the turn signals) were ripped out when i was in my accident a while back. So I don't have those lights anymore; however, the wires are there - ziptied. I'm assuming(just thought about all of this right now ) one of the power wires is touching the radiator support or something. Its 7:32am and i just thought of that. Hopefully thats the problem.....................
OH! Yep, because saturday(when it happened) i tried to test the fitment of my intercooler - and I could have pushed the wire up against the radiator support or something.
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 04:05 AM
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does it only blow when you turn on your headlights? or does it blow when you turn on your interior or while you are driving with the headlights on? or as soon as you turn the car on.

when exactly does it blow?
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 04:16 AM
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As soon as i turn on the parking lamps it blows. Since that includes the lights that USED to be in the front - i'm assuming thats the problem. I'll check it out once i get off work though. I'm hoping thats the problem.

In my accident - the light clip ( that holds the bulb) ripped off on two of the lights. So, they're not protected, and my dumbass forgot all about them. So, when i test fitted the intercooler, i think maybe i pushed two of the wires together - or one of the power wires is touching somewhere.

edit: not sure if i mentioned it, but I unplugged all of the heater controls, and taillights - but the fuse still blew. The front is the only thing i touched when the problem happened.
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 04:55 AM
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Sounds like you have a lead man
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 04:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kulrevon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does it only blow when you turn on your headlights? or does it blow when you turn on your interior or while you are driving with the headlights on? or as soon as you turn the car on.

when exactly does it blow?</TD></TR></TABLE>

How does this work? For me it works fine if ignition is in position 1: radio, overhead lights, etc all work. But if I go to position II (still havent started the engine), fuse blows. My dash/cluster lights are all working.
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 04:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vinuneuro &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sounds like you have a lead man </TD></TR></TABLE>

Ha. Don't gynx me - i've had other leads also. This one sounds promising though. I'll keep you updated. Glad you fixed one problem. Good luck on the others. Electrical is a bitch.
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 05:01 AM
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For me, my headlight wiring/turn signal wiring is a mess, but the interior lights fuse still blows when they're not on. Does this mean, it's something else? Does it mean anything?
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 05:19 AM
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I'm not really sure.
I'm assuming the short is somewhere in the interior though. You have a 5th gen, so I'm not sure what all is part of the interior light circuit.

You said - as soon as you try to start the car, the fuse blows?..............

Hm, try to take out the fuse - and put a voltmeter there to check voltage. Then, start to unplug everything to see when the voltage drops.......
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 07:01 PM
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Any updates on your issue?
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