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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 03:44 PM
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the b18c ls or the b18c gsr...which one will be better?...my friend told me that the ls motor would get off of the line faster buh i also want too kill the v8s on the freeway...can sumone help me ouT?..on which one too get?...im driving a 97 honda civic hatchback no mods..im gonna soup up the new motor...once i get it...
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 03:45 PM
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Both. ls/vtec
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 03:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boostage &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Both. ls/vtec</TD></TR></TABLE>

= if you maintain it well

= wont last long either way
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 03:49 PM
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ya buh stock the gsr has 180?..hp i think and the ls has 145...buh the trq for the ls is 127..closer ratio then the gsr and i think the gsr is 127..too....?..lolz soo which one would be best for high top end?..and fast at gettin off the line
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 03:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by killa4lyfe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lolz soo which one would be best for high top end?..and fast at gettin off the line </TD></TR></TABLE>

boost it
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 03:51 PM
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so both are the same basically?..
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 03:53 PM
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top end, you wanna go with the B18C1 bro...the LS has mad torque though..but still wont catch up to the B18C1...i
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 03:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B18B
This is the motor in the non Type-R and non GSR Integra.

Pros
Good torque for a 1.8L (127 ft/lbs)
Inexpensive (even cheaper than a B16)
142 hp (more than any stock D series)
Boost heads love them

Cons
No VTEC
Longest B series transmission

B18C1 (or JDM B18C)
These come out of an Integra GSR.

Pros
Good Hp and TQ numbers (170, 121 ft/lbs respectively)
DOHC VTEC
Tons of potential
High revving

Cons
Expensive
Becoming moreso as people keep scooping them up
Slighty longer tranny than the ITR and B16

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https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=878010

id go with the GSR personally, but if you wanna build a N/A Motor, go with LS
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 04:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EK-tacy98 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=878010

id go with the GSR personally, but if you wanna build a N/A Motor, go with LS</TD></TR></TABLE>

WRONG

LS for boost all the way. It's the most cost effective boost platform

GSR would be even better for boost, but is a better NA platform
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 05:19 PM
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you're not gonna be beating many v8's on the freeways with just a b-swap. if it were me, I would do LS boost. It was fun while it lasted.
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 05:38 PM
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I would go with the b18c1. It would be better in the long run.
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 01:32 PM
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im running an lsvtec right now but over the past 2 years of running it.. it seems to be getting a lil tired.. i have a b18c (jdm gsr) waiting for replacement this spring break ill tell ya how she runs
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 01:47 PM
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thanx rusted... how did the ls run when u first got it?
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 03:04 PM
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the lsvtec ran real strong.. didnt have any problems.. drove it everyday and still am..stilll pulls hard, but i can telll it lost some power. btw im on stock internals and gsr head... with some bolt ons
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 03:13 PM
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there is absolutely no comparison between ls and gsr
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 03:14 PM
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there has been all these responses and recommendations... yet no-one has asked him what his goals are. (and beating v8's doesn't count).

What are your goals? and what will be the primary purpose of the car.
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 03:30 PM
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LS are unstable
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 03:33 PM
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LS does not have that much more torque than the GSR...it's not like going from B16 to GSR...
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 03:51 PM
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my goalz are running 11-12 sec....on the track
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 04:13 PM
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just get a b18C1 n call it a day. boost it with a full-race kit get it tuned by someone that knows how n u can get 11s n 12s on a stock motor. wont last long but should do some block work to keep the longevity up a lil bit. but yeah.... if its a honda n doesnt have vtec its no good... its already provent vtec hondas run the fastest times in whatever type of racing u want to put them in *vtec vs non vtec* &lt;---flame protection
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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alrite thanx guyz....
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 10:32 PM
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who cares about torque......honda's don;t need it..get a b18c..honda's all about v-tec...
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 09:54 AM
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oh alrite i think ill go wid the b18c....
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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ls/vtec all the way... last longer
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 10:44 AM
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boosted ls

or if you got the money ls/vtec turbo set up
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