killa4lyfe

the b18c ls or the b18c gsr...which one will be better?...my friend told me that the ls motor would get off of the line faster buh i also want too kill the v8s on the freeway...can sumone help me ouT?..on which one too get?...im driving a 97 honda civic hatchback no mods..im gonna soup up the new motor...once i get it...

Boostage

Both. ls/vtec

5lugSlug

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= if you maintain it well

= wont last long either way

killa4lyfe

ya buh stock the gsr has 180?..hp i think and the ls has 145...buh the trq for the ls is 127..closer ratio then the gsr and i think the gsr is 127..too....?..lolz soo which one would be best for high top end?..and fast at gettin off the line

5lugSlug

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boost it

killa4lyfe

so both are the same basically?..

bmoua

top end, you wanna go with the B18C1 bro...the LS has mad torque though..but still wont catch up to the B18C1...i

5lugSlug

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This is the motor in the non Type-R and non GSR Integra.

Pros
Good torque for a 1.8L (127 ft/lbs)
Inexpensive (even cheaper than a B16)
142 hp (more than any stock D series)
Boost heads love them

Cons
No VTEC
Longest B series transmission

B18C1 (or JDM B18C)
These come out of an Integra GSR.

Pros
Good Hp and TQ numbers (170, 121 ft/lbs respectively)
DOHC VTEC
Tons of potential
High revving

Cons
Expensive
Becoming moreso as people keep scooping them up
Slighty longer tranny than the ITR and B16

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https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=878010

id go with the GSR personally, but if you wanna build a N/A Motor, go with LS

Sketch_hs

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id go with the GSR personally, but if you wanna build a N/A Motor, go with LS</TD></TR></TABLE>

WRONG

LS for boost all the way. It's the most cost effective boost platform

GSR would be even better for boost, but is a better NA platform

Patron

you're not gonna be beating many v8's on the freeways with just a b-swap. if it were me, I would do LS boost. It was fun while it lasted.

jessep4200

I would go with the b18c1. It would be better in the long run.

rusted_nailz

im running an lsvtec right now but over the past 2 years of running it.. it seems to be getting a lil tired.. i have a b18c (jdm gsr) waiting for replacement this spring break ill tell ya how she runs

killa4lyfe

thanx rusted... how did the ls run when u first got it?

rusted_nailz

the lsvtec ran real strong.. didnt have any problems.. drove it everyday and still am..stilll pulls hard, but i can telll it lost some power. btw im on stock internals and gsr head... with some bolt ons

x_outlaw_x

there is absolutely no comparison between ls and gsr

mwieczorek43

there has been all these responses and recommendations... yet no-one has asked him what his goals are. (and beating v8's doesn't count).

What are your goals? and what will be the primary purpose of the car.

5lugSlug

LS are unstable

GetawayInMoscow

LS does not have that much more torque than the GSR...it's not like going from B16 to GSR...

killa4lyfe

my goalz are running 11-12 sec....on the track

hypedlunatic

just get a b18C1 n call it a day. boost it with a full-race kit get it tuned by someone that knows how n u can get 11s n 12s on a stock motor. wont last long but should do some block work to keep the longevity up a lil bit. but yeah.... if its a honda n doesnt have vtec its no good... its already provent vtec hondas run the fastest times in whatever type of racing u want to put them in *vtec vs non vtec* &lt;---flame protection

killa4lyfe

alrite thanx guyz....

yaaj1320

who cares about torque......honda's don;t need it..get a b18c..honda's all about v-tec...

killa4lyfe

oh alrite i think ill go wid the b18c....

ekVtecPower

ls/vtec all the way... last longer

EJ8kid

boosted ls

or if you got the money ls/vtec turbo set up