Just seeing what MSD ignition you guys use out there on there ALL Motor H22 setups?

 

Just a run of the mill MSD ignition, not the digital one and not the SCI. I am also using a Blaster SS Coil. I got it all for a decent price, so I figured what the hell.

 

Is ignition upgrade required? Were builing a bored, high compression, cammed b18c1, and I dont know much about ignition. Stock distributor okay? Thanks for the help.

James

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xrocket21 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is ignition upgrade required? Were builing a bored, high compression, cammed b18c1, and I dont know much about ignition. Stock distributor okay? Thanks for the help.

James</TD></TR></TABLE>

OEM Honda ignition components are good for some high HP.. I'm not exactly sure what the number is.

 

stock igntion is best next to COP

 

Hmmm, it has a new cap and rotor, so maybe we will just try the stock components for now.

 

No stock ignition is good to 300+ whp I believe, but I got a deal on mine, and I am running really high compression, so why not?

 

"Run of the mill" MSD here as well, with blaster coil once I get it back up and running again.

 

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Because I come from the school of "if it aint broke, dont fix it" If the ignition is truly good to 300 HP, we will be all set, no reason to spend money on upgrading the ignition if its a waste of money. were spending plenty of money everywhere else.

 

hmm, i guess i'll keep stock ignition then cuz i'm just aiming for 275 whp all motor....

 

lol, 275 whp on an H22.... good luck.

 

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Because I come from the school of "if it aint broke, dont fix it" If the ignition is truly good to 300 HP, we will be all set, no reason to spend money on upgrading the ignition if its a waste of money. were spending plenty of money everywhere else.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Do you have a Honda or a Subaru?

 

I have a subaru, but the motor im building is a b18c1.

 

i took my msd off yesterday. reason, my dizzy went out. its the second dizzy to go out on me since i put the msd on. dont know if there is a relation. has anyone else had the same problem? iv herd that the stock one is good up to 500 hp. not sure if that is true or not.

 

From the sounds of it, we will be using stock ignition! thanks guys! Sorry to hijack the thread I guess?

 

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Way to go u damn terrorist.... just messing tho, It's all good as long it's useful info

 

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If you have a decent amount of hp all motor then you are gonna have ignition problems... it's not "good to 300whp"... that is hear-say bullshit. I've seen it (by it I mean the stock dizzy with basically any wire combo) take 550 personally, even though it doesn't last all that long before parts need to be replaced within the dizzy. All motor hp is somewhat different when it comes to keeping an ignition setup running, and from what I've seen, the dizzies don't like high hp all motor... period... You can have one last for weeks or one that lasts you for 3 dyno pulls, but you're gonna have to replace the ignitor pretty soon no matter what.

I have the stock honda dizzy with MSD wires and I will have an MSD blaster coil soon after I get my car running because those wires have proven in my eyes to be the best out there for a reasonable price. I don't see a problem with running stock wires though, they'll be fine, same with the stock dizzy. If I were you, I would have a stash of ignitors and rotor buttons to replace the internals of your dizzy when need be though. And I would also recommend an external coil if you do not already have one.
-John

 

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If you have a decent amount of hp all motor then you are gonna have ignition problems... it's not "good to 300whp"... that is hear-say bullshit. I've seen it (by it I mean the stock dizzy with basically any wire combo) take 550 personally, even though it doesn't last all that long before parts need to be replaced within the dizzy. All motor hp is somewhat different when it comes to keeping an ignition setup running, and from what I've seen, the dizzies don't like high hp all motor... period... You can have one last for weeks or one that lasts you for 3 dyno pulls, but you're gonna have to replace the ignitor pretty soon no matter what.

I have the stock honda dizzy with MSD wires and I will have an MSD blaster coil soon after I get my car running because those wires have proven in my eyes to be the best out there for a reasonable price. I don't see a problem with running stock wires though, they'll be fine, same with the stock dizzy. If I were you, I would have a stash of ignitors and rotor buttons to replace the internals of your dizzy when need be though. And I would also recommend an external coil if you do not already have one.
-John</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks for the valuable info

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jd3jdm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have the stock honda dizzy with MSD wires and I will have an MSD blaster coil soon after I get my car running because those wires have proven in my eyes to be the best out there for a reasonable price. I don't see a problem with running stock wires though, they'll be fine, same with the stock dizzy. If I were you, I would have a stash of ignitors and rotor buttons to replace the internals of your dizzy when need be though. And I would also recommend an external coil if you do not already have one.
-John</TD></TR></TABLE>

i'd stick with OEM wires if i were you...i've seen a RLZ built NA 2.1L lose power with MSD wires.

but once you start getting above 240whp then i'd consider COP

 

Ok, enlighten me here, what is this COP brand?

 

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Not a brand, he is talking about a seperate coil for each plug (COP=Coil On Plug).