my buddy has 4 extra springs layin round cuz he has coilovers.. i want to cut the ek springs and put them on my 90 hatch. will this work? any adjustments need to be made? or just cut and put them on.

 

why would you wanna put them on?

 

well i would assume that ek springs that are only 6 years old woulc be better than my 16 year old springs. is it easy to do or no? would you just cut my oem springs instead of messing wit the Ek ones? the springs are free soi figured i might as well use them if i can.

 

cutting the springs is just about the worst thing you could ever do...

the only way i would use them is if i had them lying around and was suuuuuper straped for cash and one of my stock springs broke

im prety sure they will fit... correct me if im wrong

 

hmm didnt know cutting hte springs would be a bad move, thanks for the advice though, im not broke at the moment and could buy springs, just wanted to know if i could avoid it.

 

cutting the springs isnt really reliable . . and safe . . just buy integra coil overs on ebay for $40 or less . .

EDIT: yes those EK springs would fit . .

 

which year of integra coilovers will fit? 90-93?

 

cutting springs isnt as bad as everybody thinks, i would assume none of you have done it, i have a friend that designs suspensions for every car he has ever owned, from bagged 4link preludes to LT1 swaped preludes for towing race cars ect

be shure you cut it with a saw, not a torch, a torch will heat the spring to much and cause it to weaken at the end you cut

as you cut the coils off the spring it will get stiffer, so you will end up with a very stiff ride, since the EK spring is already stiffer because the car is heavyer than a EF, so if you want to do you will be fine if you go about it right, i wouldnt suggest cutting off more than 2.5-3 coils or your gona risk the spring not being tall enough to stay in place

but 1 coil is usualy good for about 1.5-2" drop

alot of people say cutting is bad becaue the "herd it on the interweb y0" but most people have never done it, or riden in a car with cut springs, its not unsafe, it just usualy tends to make the ride rough, and most people are idiots and use a torch and or cut to much off, and then bitch when it rides like crap

 

so if i cut 2 inches off it i should be fine? and i got plenty of hacksaw blades around so thats not a problem. is it as easy as it sounds?? take off the spring, cut it, put it back on? just dont wanna expletive this up, i'll have extra springs but i only wanna do it once. thanks for the help

 

i would cut them 1/2 to 1 coil at a time and then put them back on and see if you like it, then take them back out and cut them again if you want it lower

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DEIVIONCRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cutting springs isnt as bad as everybody thinks, i would assume none of you have done it, i have a friend that designs suspensions for every car he has ever owned, from bagged 4link preludes to LT1 swaped preludes for towing race cars ect

be shure you cut it with a saw, not a torch, a torch will heat the spring to much and cause it to weaken at the end you cut

as you cut the coils off the spring it will get stiffer, so you will end up with a very stiff ride, since the EK spring is already stiffer because the car is heavyer than a EF, so if you want to do you will be fine if you go about it right, i wouldnt suggest cutting off more than 2.5-3 coils or your gona risk the spring not being tall enough to stay in place

but 1 coil is usualy good for about 1.5-2" drop

alot of people say cutting is bad becaue the "herd it on the interweb y0" but most people have never done it, or riden in a car with cut springs, its not unsafe, it just usualy tends to make the ride rough, and most people are idiots and use a torch and or cut to much off, and then bitch when it rides like crap</TD></TR></TABLE>


Cutting your springs raises the spring rate?? that is the dumbest statement I ever heard, the spring rate is shot to **** when you cut them. If you cut your springs they will eventually sag because they will not be able to retain the same weight the could before cutting supportive coils, this is a FACT! The spring rate is in the spring thickness and design from the manufacturer. The way you make it sound it seems like all you have to do is cut your springs "right" and they will be like race springs cause there stiff. WRONG!!!! they will ride like crap and if somebody tells you different then they have no clue what a real performance suspension is supposed to feel like. I have riden on both and learned the hard way, try telling your statement to some professional suspension specialists and they'll laugh there ***'s off.

For the most part 88-00 civic springs and 90-01 Integra springs are all interchangeable, the real difference is the spring rate, Knowledgeable suspension companies keep this in mind to get the most performance out of there springs per specific vehicle. Cheaper spring companies just make a generic spring rate for all vehicles that the springs will technically fit on, messed up part is if you test 2 kits like this with the same part number you usually get different springs rates showing how consistent cheap **** is.....THERE IS A REASON IT'S CHEAP PEOPLE!!!!!! We used to test spring rates at the performance shop I used to work at and we really learned alot between quality springs and cheap crap, DZ, Sprint (same springs, different color) are the main ones that come to mind.

Just spend your money right, avoid cheap EBay crap unless you know it's a good brand. For your Honda the best sleeve coilovers to get are Skunk 2 or Ground control. If you want springs only, there are more choices but I prefer the adjustability of coilovers myself (especially on Tokico 5-ways) DON'T CUT YOUR SPRINGS!!!!!


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DEIVIONCRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">alot of people say cutting is bad becaue the "herd it on the interweb y0"</TD></TR></TABLE>
No they actually say that because they know WTF their talking about.

 

thanks for your thoughts... even if i dont cut my springs or buy any or abuy anything for that matter. the ek springs are free, so i might as well take them. would it be wise to replace mine with the ek springs? i cant see it being worse than my own, and i assume i'd get a little better handling out of my car. correct me if im wrong.

 

Take your motor out of your car, and you'll have an idea of how high it'll sit with the EK springs.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dseries_ef &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i would assume that ek springs that are only 6 years old woulc be better than my 16 year old springs.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, well you assume too much.

 

thanks but i wasnt really looking for any smart *** comments. im glad you feel the need for making HT a place for no help, fortunatly there were a few ppl with something useful to say

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dseries_ef &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks but i wasnt really looking for any smart *** comments. im glad you feel the need for making HT a place for no help, fortunatly there were a few ppl with something useful to say</TD></TR></TABLE>

Just get used to the sarcasm here because most people just like to instigate on forums so just brush it off becuase you can actually find alot of good advice/help through the mountians of other B.S.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Take your motor out of your car, and you'll have an idea of how high it'll sit with the EK springs.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Like this one, right on the money... your car will handle better with the stiffer springs but the ride height would suck. just hold out for the right springs or coilover for your car......just because you got something for free does not mean you should just throw it on your car.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VtecSyndrome &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Cutting your springs raises the spring rate?? that is the dumbest statement I ever heard, the spring rate is shot to **** when you cut them. If you cut your springs they will eventually sag because they will not be able to retain the same weight the could before cutting supportive coils, this is a FACT! The spring rate is in the spring thickness and design from the manufacturer. The way you make it sound it seems like all you have to do is cut your springs "right" and they will be like race springs cause there stiff. WRONG!!!! they will ride like crap and if somebody tells you different then they have no clue what a real performance suspension is supposed to feel like. I have riden on both and learned the hard way, try telling your statement to some professional suspension specialists and they'll laugh there ***'s off.

For the most part 88-00 civic springs and 90-01 Integra springs are all interchangeable, the real difference is the spring rate, Knowledgeable suspension companies keep this in mind to get the most performance out of there springs per specific vehicle. Cheaper spring companies just make a generic spring rate for all vehicles that the springs will technically fit on, messed up part is if you test 2 kits like this with the same part number you usually get different springs rates showing how consistent cheap **** is.....THERE IS A REASON IT'S CHEAP PEOPLE!!!!!! We used to test spring rates at the performance shop I used to work at and we really learned alot between quality springs and cheap crap, DZ, Sprint (same springs, different color) are the main ones that come to mind.

Just spend your money right, avoid cheap EBay crap unless you know it's a good brand. For your Honda the best sleeve coilovers to get are Skunk 2 or Ground control. If you want springs only, there are more choices but I prefer the adjustability of coilovers myself (especially on Tokico 5-ways) DON'T CUT YOUR SPRINGS!!!!!



No they actually say that because they know WTF their talking about.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ok if you would get your head out of your ***, i told him he "could" cut them, and it would ride worse, no ****** **** your lowering the car on stock struts reducing the shock travel and probably hitting the bump stops if you dont remove them or half them

he was asking for ideas to do with what he has, i didnt tell him to run out and buy Race Valved Koni Yellows and GC coilovers cuz im shure he doesnt have $1000 to spend on suspension

you can roll cut springs and not have problems, cutting them does not kill the spring rate, it simply changes it, physics rember that from Highschool, theres 2 sides to this one says if you remove 1 coil from a 8 coil spring, you force the remaining 7 coils to support the same weight the 8 did before, thus raising the spring weight, but there is also the argument that you remove the 6" or (whatever 2.5"diameter= in circumferance) from teh spring thus weaking it, but if you cut 1 coil off the car still says off the bump stops its just lowered, so idk about that one

as for the Sag part, all springs sag, its part of metalurgy, if it has weight on it for long peroides of time it will eventualy sag, yes the cut one will sag just the same as a non cut one

it will never be as nice as a progressive wound or any other aftermarket spring out there, but its a very cheep alternative to spending $$$ on suspension which the Post maker doesnt want to do im shure

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jaydeum4lyfe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cutting the springs is just about the worst thing you could ever do...

the only way i would use them is if i had them lying around and was suuuuuper straped for cash and one of my stock springs broke</TD></TR></TABLE>


X 1,000,000

take the ek springs sell them and then take that money for some EF springs ahahahahhaha

 

IBTL

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DEIVIONCRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

ok if you would get your head out of your ***, i told him he "could" cut them, and it would ride worse, no ****** **** your lowering the car on stock struts reducing the shock travel and probably hitting the bump stops if you dont remove them or half them

he was asking for ideas to do with what he has, i didnt tell him to run out and buy Race Valved Koni Yellows and GC coilovers cuz im shure he doesnt have $1000 to spend on suspension

you can roll cut springs and not have problems, cutting them does not kill the spring rate, it simply changes it, physics rember that from Highschool, theres 2 sides to this one says if you remove 1 coil from a 8 coil spring, you force the remaining 7 coils to support the same weight the 8 did before, thus raising the spring weight, but there is also the argument that you remove the 6" or (whatever 2.5"diameter= in circumferance) from teh spring thus weaking it, but if you cut 1 coil off the car still says off the bump stops its just lowered, so idk about that one

as for the Sag part, all springs sag, its part of metalurgy, if it has weight on it for long peroides of time it will eventualy sag, yes the cut one will sag just the same as a non cut one

it will never be as nice as a progressive wound or any other aftermarket spring out there, but its a very cheep alternative to spending $$$ on suspension which the Post maker doesnt want to do im shure</TD></TR></TABLE>

Cut springs=bad
end of story.

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X 1,000,000

take the ek springs sell them and then take that money for some EF springs ahahahahhaha</TD></TR></TABLE>



<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by delSolSiR626 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">IBTL </TD></TR></TABLE>

I sincerly doubt this one will be locked, after some of the threads that get outta hand on here?? this one is far from that (so far anyway)

 

for some unknown reason the previous owner of my 91 civic hatch had on EK shocks and coilovers. the ride was shitty cause the shocks didn't mount properly to the LCA, so to fix the problem i just put on the propper shocks and same coilovers. so far so good....

also since your dealing with set springs the front/rear could sit at different heights. at least with coilovers there's some type of adjustment.

hope this info help. IMO just get the right parts for your car and call it a day. that way there's no worries and no hassle......good luck with it&lt;

 

well no matter wut im gonna tkae the springs...free is free. no arguing with that. whether or not i cut the ek spring and put them on, i dont know yet, and DEIVIONCRX is right i dont have $1000 to spend on my suspension, and im looking for a way to get better handling and to get rid of my gap, etc. my main goal is to drop the back about 1.5 inches, and the front 2.5 for obvious aerodynamic reasons and to get a down force so i cam get better grip on the street

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dseries_ef &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well no matter wut im gonna tkae the springs...free is free. no arguing with that. whether or not i cut the ek spring and put them on, i dont know yet, and DEIVIONCRX is right i dont have $1000 to spend on my suspension, and im looking for a way to get better handling and to get rid of my gap, etc. my main goal is to drop the back about 1.5 inches, and the front 2.5 for obvious aerodynamic reasons and to get a down force so i cam get better grip on the street</TD></TR></TABLE>

well its a bad move but its your car...as alot of people say around here dont cut the ****** springs. they will sag, the will cause your struts to go out faster. if you want good lowering coils then get some tien springs. the are like 250 at most for a 1.5-2 inch drop. i know...the guy who had my car before me cut the springs...DONT ****** DO IT.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dseries_ef &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my main goal is to drop the back about 1.5 inches, and the front 2.5 for obvious aerodynamic reasons and to get a down force so i cam get better grip on the street</TD></TR></TABLE>

And getting EK springs and cutting them will do none of these. Spend $100 and get some arospeed coilovers off ebay or some ****. Cut springs are a horrible ******* idea.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dseries_ef &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well no matter wut im gonna tkae the springs...free is free. no arguing with that. whether or not i cut the ek spring and put them on, i dont know yet, and DEIVIONCRX is right i dont have $1000 to spend on my suspension, and im looking for a way to get better handling and to get rid of my gap, etc. my main goal is to drop the back about 1.5 inches, and the front 2.5 for obvious aerodynamic reasons and to get a down force so i cam get better grip on the street</TD></TR></TABLE>

Go ahead, expletive up your suspension and learn the hard way