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Old Feb 6, 2006 | 05:04 PM
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Hey guys, i'm 18 and to be honest car's are costing me too much, i want something for weekend thrills, but keeping in mind that bikes are dangerous i'm hesitating about getting one. I have about 3k, should i just put it into my car or should i get a bike??? at 18 years i'm afraid that insurance will be crazy expensive and i also doub't i'll be able to find a decent bike for 3k. What do you guys think?
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Old Feb 6, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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You'll find most of your answers here..
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=585065

Step 1. Enroll in MSF
Step 2. Get your license
Step 3. Buy a bike
Step 4. Buy insurance
Step 5. Practice
Step 6. See Step 5

Have fun and be safe
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Old Feb 6, 2006 | 05:22 PM
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thanks man
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Old Feb 6, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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you could look at used SV650s. They're great starter bikes that are lots of fun, while still being enjoyable to more experienced riders.

At 18, insurance will be costly, but depending on the bike you get it'll vary.

If you want to get into motorcycling souley because you think it'll be cheaper, it's not really. Yes you don't really have to do power mods like you would a car to get thrills out of it, but the bike itself still needs upkeep like a car, and gear can be expensive too.
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 07:51 AM
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yeah....i know about all that, fortunately i have hook ups with riding gear and helmets, right now i'm just debating whether i should wait a couple years before i really get into all this. Once again thanks for the input
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 07:54 AM
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You can always call insurance companies now and get quotes for the bikes you are looking at. That way you'll be able to see if you can afford:
1. Gear
2. The bike itself
3. The insurance

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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 07:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by backlash &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can always call insurance companies now and get quotes for the bikes you are looking at. That way you'll be able to see if you can afford:
1. Gear
2. The bike itself
3. The insurance

GL</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree, before making a decision (obviously take the msf before) on a bike, call the insurance company. You dont wanna get a bike then find out that it will cost you an arm and a leg to insure the thing.

i know some people who bought a bike, then figured out that insurance was too much do they didnt get insurance. bike was either stolen or damaged
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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I dont think insurance is necissary. but if you want it, look into state farm, i hear there good.

Also, theres a forum somewere about good "first bikes" i dont remember the URL, but im sure you could google it... anyways, Ive been convinced that a ninja 250 is BY FAR the best first bike out there. There cheap (prices as low as $1500), they are easy to ride, not a big loss if you drop it or wreck it, and are EASY AS HELL to resell because there are always beginers looking for their first bike, ive had friends who sold them within hours of posting them on cycle trader... and sold for only $200 less than they had bought it for the year before.

I used to think you should get the bike you really want right away, so you dident loose cash buying and selling a "begginers bike" but a $200 loss is WELL worth the confidence that you arent going to drop a perfect condition 1000RR or something your second day riding
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 10:56 AM
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If you are totally new, add another 1k (at least) on top of bike cost for gear, MSF class, title transfer and insurance. More like 1.5k.
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 11:05 AM
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i hope you have a clean driving record.

Cost for insurance isn't too bad - just get liability and medical (if you want). leave off collision and you'll save your self a TON of money. On a bike that's not worth more than $1k it's not really worth it when you factor in the deductible you'll also have to pay.

Gear is also not cheap.

Jacket/Helmet/Gloves ~ $350

Happy Hunting and take the MSF course first before you even ride a bike. It'll help out a TON.
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 01:35 PM
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first you get a car then after save up money get a bike...(you can't ride 365 days right?)

don't get bike w/o getting car first..

go w/ something small first and then when you ready you'll know it.. then get bigger bike if you have more funds..

i started off w/ cbr 600cc which i starved my *** off the save enough money to buy it.. 4500 and after ride for a while;; and i move on into italian bike.. 916...(make my *** starved even more for a while.. hehehhehe
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 02:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by im_the_teacher &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">first you get a car then after save up money get a bike...(you can't ride 365 days right?)</TD></TR></TABLE>

*couch* socal *cough*

Check with your insurance company and make sure you can afford insurance on whatever you are thinking about buying before you do anything. It can be really expensive.

And if you think you have enough money, take a MSF before you do anything.

Ride Safe!

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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 11:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Step 1. Enroll in MSF
Step 2. Get your license
Step 3. Buy a bike
Step 4. Buy insurance
Step 5. Practice
Step 6. See Step 5

Have fun and be safe </TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 12:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sijray21 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Jacket/Helmet/Gloves ~ $350
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where are you buying your gear?

I have well $1200 invested in gear.
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 08:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ScareyH22A &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You'll find most of your answers here..
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=585065

Step 1. Enroll in MSF
Step 2. Get your license
Step 3. Buy a bike
Step 4. Buy insurance
Step 5. Practice
Step 6. See Step 5

Have fun and be safe </TD></TR></TABLE>

best advice anyone can give. also always wear gear im happy i did the day i crashed.
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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thanks for all the advice, tips and input. You guys have been more help than i could've asked for, I've decided to wait on the bike. Hope to see u guys riding around when i get it
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sijray21 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Gear is also not cheap.

Jacket/Helmet/Gloves ~ $350

Happy Hunting and take the MSF course first before you even ride a bike. It'll help out a TON.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PotatoePAPA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">where are you buying your gear?

I have well $1200 invested in gear.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I stopped counting the costs long ago. There's no point. Buy gear that fits. That's the most important aspect.
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 11:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by marmaladeboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I stopped counting the costs long ago. There's no point. Buy gear that fits. That's the most important aspect.</TD></TR></TABLE>

best advice yet. always invest in yourself first.
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 11:55 PM
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i wouldn't get a bike to save money because tbh I've spent more money on maintenance and odds and ends on the bike then I ever have on my car
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 12:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EngineNoO9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i wouldn't get a bike to save money because tbh I've spent more money on maintenance and odds and ends on the bike then I ever have on my car</TD></TR></TABLE>

i agree.
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 12:51 AM
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If you live in California and wish to have a insurance policy for a motorcycle you MUST have your M-1 License for AT LEAST 3 Years before they can even offer you a quote. Another option avaiable is if you or your family currently have a policy with state farm for something else IE: Car, House ETC.

I know there is one motorcycle insurer , I forgot, that is like progressive and gives you the cheapest quote avaiable for your area. I will get the number for the motorcycle insurer later.

Insurance IS mandatory. You would think "I'd never get into an accident" It happens and you must be prepared.
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 06:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PotatoePAPA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

where are you buying your gear?

I have well $1200 invested in gear.</TD></TR></TABLE>

New Scorpion Exo-700 helmet ($160 - Local Shop)
New Teknic Lightning Leather Jacket ($100 shipped from newenough.com)
New Joe Rocket Leather Gloves with padding protection ($35 - Local Shop)

Granted these isn't the BEST gear, but it works for now.

I'm looking at getting an Icon Leather Jacket with spinal protection, Sidi Boots, and leather pants in the near future.

Possibly a leather 1-piece for the track in a couple years, but that's way in the future.
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 06:35 AM
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^^^
How'd you get that jacket so damn cheap? I just checked and it's $250. newenough doesn't like me.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Charri &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you live in California and wish to have a insurance policy for a motorcycle you MUST have your M-1 License for AT LEAST 3 Years before they can even offer you a quote.
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This makes absoletely no sense. You're saying insurance companies want you to ride for three years w/o insurance before they will even consider giving you a quote.

The week I got my M1 I bought a bike and had it insured. AAA.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by marmaladeboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I stopped counting the costs long ago. There's no point. Buy gear that fits. That's the most important aspect.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Obviously the best, most expensive gear won't do much if it doesn't fit or isn't worn properly. My point is just don't skimp on it. As they say "a $100 helmet for a $100 head." Gear is an investment. It's not something that should be considered just "good enough" which is what the cheaper manufacturers are happy with. Purchase gear that's far beyond "good enough" and that has been tested and proven to be effective in the event of a crash.
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 06:47 AM
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Everyone's already covered everything pretty well.

1. MSF
2. Gear
3. Practice
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 06:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PotatoePAPA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
How'd you get that jacket so damn cheap? I just checked and it's $250. newenough doesn't like me.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I must have gotten last year's model or something - it was in the close out section.

Here is what mine looks like (yellow version):


if you are looking for it, send me an email, it's up for sale

rayja21@gmail.com


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PotatoePAPA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Obviously the best, most expensive gear won't do much if it doesn't fit or isn't worn properly. My point is just don't skimp on it. As they say "a $100 helmet for a $100 head." Gear is an investment. It's not something that should be considered just "good enough" which is what the cheaper manufacturers are happy with. Purchase gear that's far beyond "good enough" and that has been tested and proven to be effective in the event of a crash.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i would agree with you to a point. I feel that as long as the helmet is full-face, DOT, and SNELL approved then it will meet the safety standards and thus protect you just as well. I also read crash reviews and such and the Scorpion helmets got great reviews by testers! Since their price is also VERY affordable i went with them. The only helmets that i've seen worth buying that go FAR beyond the standards (AMA Superbike and other professional riders use them) are ARAI and SHOEI helmets. I just can't afford to spend quite that much money yet. I haven't done that much research on other clothing or gear, but i will soon since i'll be in the market soon.
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